group play vs solo play rewards have gotten out of hand

I don't understand this post. Scourge maps are the most rewarding maps we've ever had, even more so than Delirium or Heist.

We are getting 400-1000c worth of currency and sellable items (fossils, scarabs etc) PER T3 map, solo.

It is literally raining loot. And this is with NO MF gear at all.

Look up youtube videos on Scourge farming strategies. It is very straightforward.

Yes, you will need to invest in each map, but not a huge amount compared to Expedition league.

And remember, the basis of all high loot is beyond + nemesis. There are dozens of ways of going about this, but that's the foundation.

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Marxone wrote:

Sad part about any proposal of nerfing party play is that it will absolutely with 100% certainty fuck solo play twice as much :D
And that is no skepticism, or accusing that GGG can't balance their own game. It is just experience how they approach problems, solutions, and nerfs.

PS: I fully expect prophecies to go away. And it will be presented as party nerf :)

this is very true how they handle things i think

Technically meta stats like Rarity and Quantity don't need to exist in loot based games and generally only serve to hurt players not using them. This was true for Diablo2, Diablo3, Warframe, ect.

Especially in the case of Warframe and this game. Drop rates are set with these tactics in mind. Warframe even tells it's players to use these tactics for farming instead of playing a frame they like.

"Use the farming frame to make it faster". Those Devs have even quoted avg gains over time using these methods as justification for poor drop rates. Oblivious to how bad they sound.

I've said this on every game that's had a "Magic Find". Delete it and normalize drop rates.

how else do you think that GGG can control the economy? they need these high investment groups to farm currency and gear for trade to control everything. it's another reason GGG won't fix trade. players have too much real money invested and that is all GGG cares about.

look at the harvest nerf. casual players were able to actually reach endgame as well as start crafting the big boy gear. GGG fixed that so it can't happen anymore unless you are in one of these groups.

it won't surprise me if this post gets removed. the last 2 i made stating this info got removed. but maybe some will get to read this one as the last 2 were gone in seconds lol

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InsiderTradingX wrote:

I don't understand this post. Scourge maps are the most rewarding maps we've ever had, even more so than Delirium or Heist.

We are getting 400-1000c worth of currency and sellable items (fossils, scarabs etc) PER T3 map, solo.

It is literally raining loot. And this is with NO MF gear at all.

Look up youtube videos on Scourge farming strategies. It is very straightforward.

Yes, you will need to invest in each map, but not a huge amount compared to Expedition league.

And remember, the basis of all high loot is beyond + nemesis. There are dozens of ways of going about this, but that's the foundation.

you are deeply confused if you think nem3 scourge chaining is dropping 4+ exalts per map lmao

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Ivory_vines wrote:

you are deeply confused if you think nem3 scourge chaining is dropping 4+ exalts per map lmao

idk about that, I baked this map myself and this is about half of what it dropped. 4 ex maybe a bit of stretch unless they're juicing it very hard but this one gave ~2ex worth of items. It was a white map too coz I forgot to alch it. I feel like people are still underestimating the power of scourge maps or simply not running enough of the content

The 6 people had a bigger boat .........

:P
TBH i agree with your complain about this. Its pure stupid how groups are just dominating the market like this. Its Not the way this game should be. But it IS the way it is. So meh.. Adapt and overcome..

BTW. If you solo play most of the time like i do. Then what other folks are doing in regards to this .. Should not effect you. Since you know. we are solo playing.

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Ivory_vines wrote:

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InsiderTradingX wrote:

I don't understand this post. Scourge maps are the most rewarding maps we've ever had, even more so than Delirium or Heist.

We are getting 400-1000c worth of currency and sellable items (fossils, scarabs etc) PER T3 map, solo.

It is literally raining loot. And this is with NO MF gear at all.

Look up youtube videos on Scourge farming strategies. It is very straightforward.

Yes, you will need to invest in each map, but not a huge amount compared to Expedition league.

And remember, the basis of all high loot is beyond + nemesis. There are dozens of ways of going about this, but that's the foundation.

you are deeply confused if you think nem3 scourge chaining is dropping 4+ exalts per map lmao

did i say nem3 scourge chaining? no, so i'm the one lmao

my friends and I have made more currency per map this league than ever before. been playing for 4 years too

+1 economy is fucked because of that

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