Just got scammed, can we get an anti trade scam system implemented any time soon?
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yea its ggg's fault people can't read on the confirmation screen, make sure you click accept as fast as you can so you can go back to zoom zoom, if you get scammed just blame ggg derpy
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No, but that is why people will have a choice. Both players opt in, feature will be in full effect. One player opts in, a different kind of effect. No players opt in, no change to trading what so ever, this way, at least people have a fighting chance to pressure the scammer who likely haven't opted into the feature to have the items returned and the trade reversed. This feature could also be toggleble between people you trust or don't trust. Similar to (yes, odd example) Vrchats trusted user system in which depending on how long you have played, the interactions you have had, people will experience different levels of strictness while trading. It won't restrict a new player from making successful trades, it will just give the other person a chance to get their items back in the case they feel they have been scammed. The whole idea here is that we can discourge a whole lot of players from actively trying to scam you by simply giving them a fighting chance unlike what they have now. Clearly what's already in place does not prevent players from actively attempting to scam you and make a real life living from it, that is why there is clearly something wrong with the current system. I may not be making a solid argument to what this change could be, but I'm stating that fact that no matter who you are or how many times you been scammed in the past, it can happened again and most people who try to scam you haven't invested a lot of time or effort into the account and as such, do not care about it or the players they are attempting to scam. We just need to put a stop to it. I am repeating myself because this is important, something needs to be done and the sooner the better
I usually do not read popular posts again after i made a comment on it, unless it's one of my own. I wish to have a Black robed Grim Reaper micro set in game one day, grant my wish, GGG Last edited by VoidExilePoE#0366 on Oct 28, 2021, 6:46:33 AM
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"I like both your idea and i think you raise an excellent point. Don't get me wrong with my suggestion, I don't intend for the idea to limit your gameplay experience, I simply gave an example and highlighted the fact something needs to be done about the issue and a counter or trade stack size feature would greatly help in solving this issue, it surprises me this isn't a thing yet. I been scammed a few times here and there, although i take breaks, don't trade a whole bunch and don't have a muscle memory to avoid this stuff every time. The way things work for me is that I get scammed, I get mad and sad, for some time after that, I am extra careful to avoid it happening again, then i slowly forget and get used to trading and get caught off guard and get scammed again. The process continues. I honor you for having such a keen eye and mind for this stuff but I unfortunately can't replicate this trading behaviour for long durations of time. Part of this may be because of my mental and physical health and ruitines, so even though most of the factors fall upon me, that doesn't mean I should have to suffer because of my inability to continue being casious I usually do not read popular posts again after i made a comment on it, unless it's one of my own. I wish to have a Black robed Grim Reaper micro set in game one day, grant my wish, GGG
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"Ignorance is just as strong in the complainee as with the people replying. Not very civilised. I been through this stage already I usually do not read popular posts again after i made a comment on it, unless it's one of my own. I wish to have a Black robed Grim Reaper micro set in game one day, grant my wish, GGG
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"For some people like myself, slipups happened more often than they should. Even when I know how they opperate, my memory and general health problems causes me to forget and go through with the trade out of pure muscle memory and lack of proper judgement. It lies in my hands not to have this happened but yet it does and i need assistance to help me from having this happen. That is why i'm bringing up the topic in the first place, because I'm not strong enough to always do things right and in my case, that sort of thing happens way more often than I wish it would. Does that mean I should stop treating PoE as my favorite game, regret everything I invested into it or just ignore trading (a cruel part of my gameplay) just so that I can avoid this happening? As for the bloat thing. Programming, design and all that is highly flexible and GGG could think of something that would slide like butter in the current trade system. Like another person said, simply adding a currency counter or increasing trade stack sizes, this could drastically help out in a way that will solve both the problem at hand and add more convenience to trading in general. Is that bloat? I usually do not read popular posts again after i made a comment on it, unless it's one of my own. I wish to have a Black robed Grim Reaper micro set in game one day, grant my wish, GGG
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"So are you proposing GGG is encouraging malicious behavior out of some sort of personal vendetta against trading? Because that seems cruel against the group of genuine hard working people who just want to have a good time engaging with a games core system without having their days fked up because somebody else decided to ruin their day. I usually do not read popular posts again after i made a comment on it, unless it's one of my own. I wish to have a Black robed Grim Reaper micro set in game one day, grant my wish, GGG
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"A well disguised sarcastic comment aside. It's already been established that an auction house isn't going to happened and it doesn't need to as long as everyone, including the minority gets to engage in a functional system. Drawing the border between fair trade and not is a complex task, but i would consider a super easy and fast system that can easily be abused in which people who been scammed before can be scammed again to be a fair system even though apparently the majority of people don't suffer from this I usually do not read popular posts again after i made a comment on it, unless it's one of my own. I wish to have a Black robed Grim Reaper micro set in game one day, grant my wish, GGG
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" My intention wasn't sarcastic, it was how it will be fixed, AH even will prevent under-pricing of some items where ppl post like 20 items with low price and then buy everything what is miss-pricesd. Most stupid thing in this game is worst trade system what online game saw (and still push in 2021) make most ppl avoid game at all, many left only because this "no respond", "different time zone" etc. bull$hit. Single player one-shooting IMBA ARPG with pain-full direct trade is real description of PoE. Last edited by Coolmer#1879 on Oct 28, 2021, 8:09:41 AM
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To reduce amount of bots and scammers from a trade, why not do like Steam did in Dota. Restrict trade function with mobile phone number verification. 1 mobile phone number per account and make it a repeatable verification every 1 or 2 weeks, so bots can't use random internet phone numbers.
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sarno is right.
the bit where you should be checking what is being traded is the bit where you can see what is being traded in the window and have to mouse over all the items to confirm each one individually. i made a trade recently, cant remember what for, where someone was supposed to put about 50 chaos in the window and they put in 2 stacks of 10 and 3 single chaos orbs making a total of 5 spots in the window. they did it very quickly too, the speed was almost instant so presumed bot. i just cancelled the trade and left the zone, went and found someone else to trade with. just check your trades like youre supposed to do at the point in the trade thats been designed specifically for you to check and not get scammed. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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