The truth of how to make currency, P2W or Not

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iuiulitza wrote:

You can put your items on the market , but if you don't have a small army of "minions" willing to buy your items even if they don't need them , just to help you , like the streamers have , you might not have the same success like them , no matter how many trade guides they tell you to follow .

A.K.A the bitchboys ;)

You can also put an item on the "market" and never sell it, because you play 2h/day, not 10h, so time when your item is actually shown on the market iss minimal (which makes chances of selling it minimal as well)

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Aynix wrote:

You can also put an item on the "market" and never sell it, because you play 2h/day, not 10h, so time when your item is actually shown on the market iss minimal (which makes chances of selling it minimal as well)

That usually means it's either a very niche item or more likely you overpriced it.

I read all previews comments
points to add

- Zizarans main style is SSF
(I am aware of that, what I am doing is compare/How to make currency)
if zizarans want it at the half of league can play trade league
I think he has a video "trade league" thats ok for me he is a youtuber.
needs to create content.

- "The truth of how to make currency is to play 10h a day. Or more."
you need to be online if you want to sell...
if you are AFK with fake prices it's ok too. (mule accounts??)

you can be "at work" and connected with "teamviewer" to your PC and doing trades.

- playing a lot and efficiently is probably core to all of them (as mbXtreme says)
selling at high price and farming xp although Path of Mathh selling in 5,10,15,20,25
and mbXtreme 1 tab all at ~50 c

PathofMatth
@Another_Corona_Virus Hi, I would like to buy your Glyph Gnarl Platinum Sceptre listed for 10 chaos in Expedition (stash tab "~price 10 chaos"; position: left 21, top 1)

mbXtreme
@mbXpedition Hi, I would like to buy your Foe League Conjurer Boots listed for 50 chaos in Expedition (stash tab "~price 50 chaos"; position: left 8, top 15)

both streamers and know strategies to make currency
the question who have the mule account?

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Trading isn't "winning". It's "cheating".

Whenever you go to store to buy groceries you're cheating.
You should grow your own potatoes and breed your own cattle. If not, you're cheating.

On topic, no it's not pay2win, it's pay 4 convenience.
This is not a pvp game so there is no "winning".
Do you get an advantage over other people who're not buying stashtabs? Sure you do, still not p2w though.

Haven´t even watched the links you provided because your initial statement is weird enough that I know I dont need to check upon those sources.

Fact is:

This game is clearly not P2W, for one simple reason:

Experience and knowledge FAR outweigh anything tabs give you.

Don´t get me wrong here: I fully acknowledge the insane QoL those tabs bring and of course you need them to perform well in a trading-driven economy. But you definately DO NOT need tabs like those streamers you mentioned.

I just be very open about what I make and what tabs I am running:
- Currency
- Fragments
- div cards
- Essences
- Delve
- 3 Premium tabs for sale
- 2 Quad tabs for dumping / orga

And thats all of it. I purchased them all on discount, but I don´t know how much this will total up to. I didn´t even bother buying delirium or metamorph as those are very redundant.
The Premium tabs I use as dump-sales + 1 tab with higher prices items, I rotate them after a certain amount and thats it.

With that system I am producing, depending on the time I can invest, somewhere between 1-3 mirrors per league.

And my point is: give me 10, 20, 40 further tabs and my currency wouldnt change a bit. If anything I´d be slower as its too much juggling around.

So to sum that up: the notion that you automatically make currency in this game proportional to your tabs is ridiculous, you need to back it up with proper playing first of all, and time investment is part of that equation as well. Stash-tabs are nothing but a catalyst for skill. Take the best currency-makers, give them stash-tabs for like 10-15€ and they outperform those streamers by a long shot.

Its not pay to win, its pay to thrive.

You can beat Maven and Sirus on 100c budgets, even last league (seismic trap video that made the rounds), and you dont need trade for that.

Yes to acquire headhunters you need tabs and trade or hundreds of hours of farm.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Trading isn't "winning". It's "cheating".

lol....
I know you're a vocal SSF player but you're wrong. SSF is a optional handicap, not a mode to avoid "cheating". This game is literally designed around the fact you can trade.

Yup, it's pay to enjoy. I remember when I didn't have currency / map tab and trading tabs. Man the game was a pain to manage. All I had was some garbage begged gear because I was so annoyed to pick up everything and trade smaller currency into bigger ones.

Now I just hype and loot everything...

So yea, it's pay to enjoy. But to be honest it was only about 20-25$ , so it's not that big of a deal.

For that ammount I got some trading tabs I think 6 + the currency and map tab and with the leftover coins I got fragment and div tab.

I wasted another 10$ when the tabs for oils organs came out so rounded up about 35$ for the whole damn packages.

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RandallPOE wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

You can also put an item on the "market" and never sell it, because you play 2h/day, not 10h, so time when your item is actually shown on the market iss minimal (which makes chances of selling it minimal as well)

That usually means it's either a very niche item or more likely you overpriced it.

Or it just means no one needed that item in 2h. Im not talking about some scarabs or sextants that you can sell instantly.