Banned on tft - for no reason a whole section of trade no more accessable

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trixxar wrote:

GGG has empowered TFT to act completely independently as a monopoly on the truth in these situations, with a result of being banned from the top end trading of the game at stake.

yes, the fact that most top end players submit to sharing their findings on this platform makes it a urgent issue for ggg to solve.

the ingame implementation for trust based problems are guilds.
if guilds weren't in a bad state (f.e. with real money transfers in form of guild coins towards the guild leader in exchange for other favours) they could build on top of that.

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zakalwe55 wrote:

But all of this back and forth is pointless. OP is banned and will not be reinstated. OP appealing on POE forums is completely worthless.

No it's not worthless, it's quite entertaining. I'm especially entertained by the people that think he did nothing wrong by keeping the extra currency he was paid and cursing out the buyer.

But here's the takeaway from all this: How about POE cut out the middle man and implement a trade system of their own?

(Won't happen. They don't want the responsibility.)

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trixxar wrote:

Or does he say "Buzz off / pay attention next time" etc, which is what I would say to someone trying to scam me by pretending they paid more than they did and I owe them?

Just FYI, you can also say "Buzz off / pay attention next time" if someone overpaid you and you plan on keeping it.

In fact the whole "pay attention next time" thing tells me that's exactly what happened.

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MrSparkle001 wrote:

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trixxar wrote:

Or does he say "Buzz off / pay attention next time" etc, which is what I would say to someone trying to scam me by pretending they paid more than they did and I owe them?

Just FYI, you can also say "Buzz off / pay attention next time" if someone overpaid you and you plan on keeping it.

In fact the whole "pay attention next time" thing tells me that's exactly what happened.

OP: "If you brainfarted and can't see what sacs you need"
OP: "Not my problem"


It a lot more likely you would say this in response to someone saying "Hey I realized I dont need these specific fragments, lets trade back"

Than you would to someone who said

"I actually need these fragments, but I put too much in the trade window, please refund me"

See, look;



Guy who complained on TFT: "Hey I realized I dont need these specific fragments, lets trade back"
OP: "If you brainfarted and can't see what sacs you need"
OP: "Not my problem"

That makes sense as a conversation.


Guy who complained on TFT: "I actually need these fragments, but I put too much in the trade window, please refund me"
OP: "If you brainfarted and can't see what sacs you need"
OP: "Not my problem"

That doesn't make sense.

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trixxar wrote:

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zakalwe55 wrote:

I thought the trade messages were for 225c for x quantity and 150c for y quantity. Counterparty paid 225c for y quantity. Counterparty got the type of sacs he needed...not the quantity. So counterparty asked for return of excess c paid.
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There is no proof of that.

Feel free to post screenshots if you have them (please dont refer back to page 5, there is nothing there other than a request to go browse forums with no link), otherwise it is a he said/she said, and no one has proof, as you reference later in your post (in regards to the claim that it was a friend of a mod, to avoid putting words in your mouth).

And that is usually what these come down to, a "I said" vs "They said" situation.

GGG has empowered TFT to act completely independently as a monopoly on the truth in these situations, with a result of being banned from the top end trading of the game at stake.

How are we really arguing this is reasonable?

The screenshot of the conversation is in the scam-reports section of TFT. You can do a search from: RuToss. That screenshot supports counterparty paid more for less quantity. Again, OP hasn't posted any screenshots supporting his claims. OP's claim that he told counterparty to get lost AFTER being threatened with a TFT scam report is a lie. What else has OP lied about?

As for being banned from the top end of trading...people just need to learn how to play the game correctly.

Quit using whatever the hell TFT is and play normal? problem solved :D

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Lynerus wrote:

Quit using whatever the hell TFT is and play normal? problem solved :D

Well OP has the quit part down, even if it wasn't voluntary.

From my experience, I do indeed have unpleasant encounters with the mods before. Of course, I am posting this using my alternative and TFT UN-registered account for fear of repercussions to my main account. This is because before you become a TFT member/user, they do require you to surrender your account information such as your personal email registered to POE, character name and POE username and inventory screenshots etc. So there is no way to evade a ban on TFT discord if they're not happy with me just because of what I have said here.

There is one incident whereby I have to prove my innocence to the mods first before I am cleared of accusations. The thing is that all it takes is just for a nobody to accuse you of something without any proof and you will be placed in an "investigative penal" and be subjected to all forms of investigations actions on you as if you are really the criminal. From doing in game screenshots (character/inventory/chat/stash page by page) to windows file screenshot (client.txt) to item trade tallying and comparing and to pass out judgment etc... The whole process took me 3 hours before I am cleared of all suspicion/accuses.

They wasted my 3 hours for nothing, the accuser walks away scot-free.

I did not have any proof of my claims of course because that happens a long long time ago but at least I can share with you the process of how they do their "investigations" on you and you can judge my story based on what I have said.

TFT moderators are unpaid mods but why do they volunteer their time and energy to moderate for free instead of playing the game? Only logical reason I could think of is because those people are probably losers who got disrespected IRL ..By becoming a moderator, they got absolute power to do whatever they wanted to a member's account and feel respected. They wanted people to bootlick them or feel "accepted" by their peers or society, something which they can't achieve IRL. They craved for that feeling.

Thus, most mods you came across appears to be rude, haughty because they knew you are at their mercy and they can do whatever they can to your account as they deemed fit without any consequences.

So just one word of advice, always comply with the requests of the mods and do not be rude even if you're mistreated or insulted. I did everything the mods requested and they let me go because there is no evidence against me.

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Clean_Old_Man wrote:

why do they volunteer their time and energy to moderate for free instead of playing the game? Only logical reason I could think of is because those people are probably losers who got disrespected IRL ..By becoming a moderator, they got absolute power to do whatever they wanted to a member's account and feel respected. They wanted people to bootlick them or feel "accepted" by their peers or society, something which they can't achieve IRL. They craved for that feeling.

1. My experience with TFT mods is only positive
2. What you said there is 100% true of most mods, not just discord ones. Lets just look at the recent facebook whistleblower, he confirms this to be fact even for paid facebook moderation, moderators just become mods to push leftist politic agenda according to him.

"I can do work, for free! Count me in! Said nobody ever unless it was for his friend or himself. So the motivation is ofcourse elsewhere."

If I'm wrong just as many people as there want to be discord admins should want to clean my house for free, cook for me, dig holes for me, work in my shop for free, develop software for me.

Yet somehow i gotta do all of that myself or pay for it, gooosh i wonder why, maybe ehm for work people expect reward and the reward of having power over others and push your agenda is good enough when it comes to moderation.


If you ask people if they want to be president for free or be cleaner of local supermarket for free i expect quite different results.

There is even "pretend police" in america that does pretend they are police just to feel respected. But they are actually funeral service.
Some of them do it for free just to be able to shout at people with fake badges and police lights... they go to prison, get fined and get other trouble yet that does not stop them before the feeling of having authority is too great to give up, it is drug.

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Clean_Old_Man wrote:

TLDR powertripping mods

yep, discord mods powertripping. more news at 11.
the devs need to itemize those crafts so we don't have to rely those platforms. its always bound to happen that power corrupts, especially in a video game about progressing a power fantasy.

forcing the playerbase to trade through third party means those platforms will get power, and that power will almost always be abused.