D2R might bring new PoE players

I was never interested in D2R since anything I need out of D2, I can get from the base version (with the added bonus of some good QoL mods and Lan play).

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Clunky movement, clunky mobs targeting, clunky object ineractions, weird mobsa distance targeting you, dumb companions (if someone says minions in POE have bad Ai try D2R), dumb and irritating flask system, hard to trade, legendary story is soo cliche, only 1 respec per difficulty. It's just old game with new graphics. And that is all.

Perfect description of PoE.


Wait, was he talking about something else?

One thing that D2R does great is rare items. They arent too rare to find and they arent dropping like 100+ of them in a 2 mins session. They are exciting to check out unlike PoE.

Influence system in PoE has made items dropping on the ground irrelevant and not exciting. Pretty much all rare item mods in PoE that are good is influence mods which needless to say is impossible to find a decent rare + influence mods that are good. And at the top end it needs to be double influenced as well.


PoE needs to do something about items from the ground being exciting. And reduce drops by like 90%. Runes and Runewords are fun too.

It will be interesting how long the hype will last. They said it will be a live game so we will see how they continue to support it. Its end game is basically pindle runs. I spent an unhealthy amount of years of my life - before marriage and kids - playing D2, and as much as the nostalgia is hitting me right now to get D2R, I'm watching the streamers just do the same shit over and over and that's basically pindle and a couple other bosses. I use to do the same thing, and when I think about it rationally, I have no desire to do it again.

Now if they add some sort of end-game in the form of rifts or something like it, it could be a game changer and keep players hooked longer.

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YomiSyn wrote:

Hype, nostalgia and curiosity. Reskinned game left to rot by Blizzard in all other respects typical Blizzard incompetence. 300k+ on release Twitch numbers 89k RN maybe better Sunday afternoon but as is 2/3 viewership lost in 2 days. Devastatingly telling. Tons left in Droves. Mods make it more POE like but Blizzard true to Blizzard style and destroy anything good. Poor 1 or 2 Devs still working on that game and not prepping for court.

This is about the time people would be talking about D2R dying?

The game is fun enough, but I'm barely through normal and the nostalgia is wearing off. I like the new graphics, when they're not giving me a headache.

The gameplay is slow which is a nice change of pace.

I might go out and buy the stupid thing if someone can't answer me about the chat gem.

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MrSparkle001 wrote:

Best thing about D2 is the soundtrack. Seriously, IMO it's the best game soundtrack ever.

So you haven't played the original Diablo, I assume. :D

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Shagsbeard wrote:

I might go out and buy the stupid thing if someone can't answer me about the chat gem.

I would be happy to answer. I just don't understand what a chat gem is.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

I might go out and buy the stupid thing if someone can't answer me about the chat gem.

I would be happy to answer. I just don't understand what a chat gem is.

Its a d2 bnet injoke. The chat had a gem in the middle of its windows and you could click it for absolutely no reason other than to get various amusing chat messages, some of which spawned a lot of conspiracy theories and experiments. To my knowledge it was just Blizzard being silly, but who knows? DYWTKM? Google it.

"There is no cow level."

Old dude is being old. Meanwhile, water is wet and d2r is a good arpg.

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So the session went very well. My friend died two times because haha he really underestimated the frailty of early sorceress and the speed of early mobs, especially the corrupted rogues.

Perhaps the most interesting thing he did that I have never seen a seasoned d2 player do was save early skill points and then spend them all at level 12 *on two different elements*. In my experience we sort of picked a skill and hammered it, although it was good to have a second damage type for Hell's immunities. That isn't why he did it, of course. He did it because Lightning is a piercing bolt and Fireball is a ranged aoe. In other words, they have distinctly different functions from one fight to the next. He isn't wrong but it is delightfully short sighted. Diablo 2, like most games, was and is most fun when you play it without having to think too far ahead.

This is why it feels like you are actually playing the game rather than simply using it to reach certain distant goals. Of course the more you play the more you become aware of the horizon and it is inevitable the future dictates the present...I suppose what I want from a game, any game, is the ability to wilfully ignore that horizon, put my head down and focus almost solely on the present...and still find the game enjoyable. A big ask, when you think about it.

Anyway we cleared act 1 in five hours or so, and will take a crack at act 2 tonight. I suspect we are past the deadly early stage of the arpg experience wherein you are mostly naked and have bugger all skills, but there are more than enough arsehole critters in the desert to punish a less than tactically sound sorceress, a zippy Assassin and a pre-med Healbot...

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MrSparkle001 wrote:

Best thing about D2 is the soundtrack. Seriously, IMO it's the best game soundtrack ever.

So you haven't played the original Diablo, I assume. :D

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