Streamer Big Ducks unloads on GGG and people who attack those critical of GGG

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innervation wrote:
I quoted him talking about himself - that's a self diagnosis not an attack.

I would still like an answer to the question. Why should I bother with this persons opinions when they admit to such a thing? They've already demonstrated that they're willing to engage in extreme hyperbole or that they don't have neither the self respect, analytical power, nor the determination to fix their own problems.

I dismissed 0 points because that was the only one he made, and it's a giant red flag to stop taking him seriously.


Yawn, your entire take boils down to this guy should just quit his job if he doesnt like it, thats what you want to say. So tiresome, if people loved something and the thing they loved is changed to something they dont like than people are quite fairly allowed to critique said changes, and then we get thinly veiled takes of "if you dont like it leave" like your own.
Last edited by stormyknight#7628 on Aug 11, 2021, 6:34:01 PM
This video is best description of all PoE problems. He has no fear to say it straight. I think GGG tactics to slow game failed, we are still ultra fast but we are dying much more often. It's just no fun.

And Poe need fundamental changes. Direction of patches is very wrong. I like to see patch dealing with terrible UI, screen clutter, QoL, too much RNG etc.
Very good video, I thought it was a great analysis of the problems and particularly from the perspective of the low to mid skill/experience player which is something some forum goers appear to either dismiss or simply not understand very well.

Combined with Grimro's recent video there's some solid feedback out there.
Oh it certainly encompasses all of PoE's problems. And I'm looking at him right in that video.

It's fascinating to see streamer/influencer culture just rolling through online games and discord echo chambers like a forest wildfire. There needs to be a reckoning with game companies just delivering the banhammers and showing this isn't acceptable. Too many unstable people, mentally ill people, tantrum throwers. When this kind of rhetoric is allowed and they're the 'good guys' and the game company is 'the bad guy' anything they do is righteous. You can't criticize him because if you do that then you're the problem. The thousands of disparate voices each pulling in a different direction aren't the problem of course not.

I warned when asmongold was allowed to talk to chris this would happen. He's the chief bad actor behind this fire rolling through and making absolutely every online game unplayable (aside from the one where there's a literal language barrier and they can't harass their cult god devs) Can we just fast forward this movie to the end where the banhammers drop? Because guaranteed that's 100% the outcome of this drama as it plays out. The tension accelerates in one direction and you only have communities who try to play it out and give everyone a headache pretending it isn't accelerating in that direction (Blizzard) or you just put your foot down and remind everyone whose house it is and throw the banhammers to people who won't respect that.

This correlates exactly to the deterioration of communication with social media over the past few years and there's no solution other than putting people in their toxic containers and telling them to shop around somewhere else if they don't like the product on offer. The sooner we hit fast forward the less hard feelings there will be everywhere.
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SPYDER680 wrote:
Guess were not supposed to enjoy the League ? because some streamers said so ?





Guess ill quit ?




I love the flask Changes and the nerfs don't really bother me any ?


You funny man . You enjoy the Laegue ? Good for you . But if other player/streamer doesn't enjoy the League then they should not say so ? You listen to everything that streamer tell you ? Streamer tell you to smash your pc with a hammer then you follow it ? You think ?
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Megabobbyflay wrote:
Oh it certainly encompasses all of PoE's problems. And I'm looking at him right in that video.

It's fascinating to see streamer/influencer culture just rolling through online games and discord echo chambers like a forest wildfire. There needs to be a reckoning with game companies just delivering the banhammers and showing this isn't acceptable. Too many unstable people, mentally ill people, tantrum throwers. When this kind of rhetoric is allowed and they're the 'good guys' and the game company is 'the bad guy' anything they do is righteous. You can't criticize him because if you do that then you're the problem. The thousands of disparate voices each pulling in a different direction aren't the problem of course not.

I warned when asmongold was allowed to talk to chris this would happen. He's the chief bad actor behind this fire rolling through and making absolutely every online game unplayable (aside from the one where there's a literal language barrier and they can't harass their cult god devs) Can we just fast forward this movie to the end where the banhammers drop? Because guaranteed that's 100% the outcome of this drama as it plays out. The tension accelerates in one direction and you only have communities who try to play it out and give everyone a headache pretending it isn't accelerating in that direction (Blizzard) or you just put your foot down and remind everyone whose house it is and throw the banhammers to people who won't respect that.

This correlates exactly to the deterioration of communication with social media over the past few years and there's no solution other than putting people in their toxic containers and telling them to shop around somewhere else if they don't like the product on offer. The sooner we hit fast forward the less hard feelings there will be everywhere.



So you want people who dont agree with the changes to be banned ? Honestly the most TOXIC of all the discussion really is the people who cant stand that others have the nerve to offer any criticism.
Last edited by stormyknight#7628 on Aug 11, 2021, 7:45:03 PM
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stormyknight wrote:
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innervation wrote:
I quoted him talking about himself - that's a self diagnosis not an attack.

I would still like an answer to the question. Why should I bother with this persons opinions when they admit to such a thing? They've already demonstrated that they're willing to engage in extreme hyperbole or that they don't have neither the self respect, analytical power, nor the determination to fix their own problems.

I dismissed 0 points because that was the only one he made, and it's a giant red flag to stop taking him seriously.


Yawn, your entire take boils down to this guy should just quit his job if he doesnt like it, thats what you want to say. So tiresome, if people loved something and the thing they loved is changed to something they dont like than people are quite fairly allowed to critique said changes, and then we get thinly veiled takes of "if you dont like it leave" like your own.


No matter how many times you twist my words into something I didn't say, I will not spend 20 minutes listening to the sermon of someone who intentionally makes themselves miserable.

Sure, anyone can critique. But I don't have to value it. Not when they preface it with extreme hyperbole / self sabotage of credibility.
Last edited by innervation#4093 on Aug 11, 2021, 7:49:01 PM
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innervation wrote:
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stormyknight wrote:
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innervation wrote:
I quoted him talking about himself - that's a self diagnosis not an attack.

I would still like an answer to the question. Why should I bother with this persons opinions when they admit to such a thing? They've already demonstrated that they're willing to engage in extreme hyperbole or that they don't have neither the self respect, analytical power, nor the determination to fix their own problems.

I dismissed 0 points because that was the only one he made, and it's a giant red flag to stop taking him seriously.


Yawn, your entire take boils down to this guy should just quit his job if he doesnt like it, thats what you want to say. So tiresome, if people loved something and the thing they loved is changed to something they dont like than people are quite fairly allowed to critique said changes, and then we get thinly veiled takes of "if you dont like it leave" like your own.


No matter how many times you twist my words into something I didn't say, I will not spend 20 minutes listening to the sermon of someone who intentionally makes themselves miserable.

Sure, anyone can critique. But I don't have to value it. Not when they preface it with extreme hyperbole / self sabotage of credibility.


why even comment then, you are clearly looking for an argument about steamers and their opinions.
Last edited by stormyknight#7628 on Aug 11, 2021, 7:57:01 PM
I think this is a sickness at this point with some people.

Streamer actually is right and representing a lot of the arguments from people who are upset with GGG and what do some people do?

Get mad at the streamer.

That says more about you than it does the streamer.

I'd be more upset at the streamers who are yelling at customers of GGG telling them that GGG doesn't want them.

With marketing like that, who needs enemies...
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stormyknight wrote:


why even comment then, you are clearly looking for an argument about steamers and their opinions.


I read the OP, every response, then clicked on the video. Then gave my impressions. Are you confused as to how forums work?

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