Conspiracy theory

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TBorgezHU3 wrote:

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BarbarianBear wrote:

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TBorgezHU3 wrote:

is ggg screwing up POE on purpose, so the migration to POE2 doesn't seem as crappy as it's been?

Perhaps they are making sure the game doesnt die like every game thats power creep goes too far? Perhaps when everyone who tested PoE 2 loved the pace and the style they realized that making a game isnt fun when no one ever experienced the art or the moves or the designs or the feeling of the game they put all their time into making for you.

Perhaps someone out there needs to make a stick figure arpg thats and idle clicker for all the people who seem to not like playing games but just like clicking and all the content is one shotted so that all the people here throwing out hate can enjoy a game with no substance.

perhaps that.

I play for the fun of the ARPG hack n slash. If I were to spend 1 month leveling a character, I would be playing MMO. If GGG has this in mind, then it should be developing an MMO, not an ARPG. AND spend 5 minute more holding a button isn't really "making a game fun"...

it isnt hack and slash if you one shot everything off screen without ever engaging content or seeing the games art. Thats an idle clicker. Also all the best hack n slash games throughtout history and the most iconic have been much slower than this. Also Diablo 2 was never this fast.

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BarbarianBear wrote:

it isnt hack and slash if you one shot everything off screen without ever engaging content or seeing the games art. Thats an idle clicker. Also all the best hack n slash games throughtout history and the most iconic have been much slower than this. Also Diablo 2 was never this fast.

Did you not make your own thread to articulate your opinion? We know it by now. It is not necessary trying to discredit anyone who has a different view. That doesn't change anything.
Besides, this is only your definition of "hack & slash", you should abstain from generalizing. A lot of people actually like progression and having very strong characters at the end of a league.

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Dan1986 wrote:

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BarbarianBear wrote:

it isnt hack and slash if you one shot everything off screen without ever engaging content or seeing the games art. Thats an idle clicker. Also all the best hack n slash games throughtout history and the most iconic have been much slower than this. Also Diablo 2 was never this fast.

Did you not make your own thread to articulate your opinion? We know it by now. It is not necessary trying to discredit anyone who has a different view. That doesn't change anything.
Besides, this is only your definition of "hack & slash", you should abstain from generalizing. A lot of people actually like progression and having very strong characters at the end of a league.

Then play a MMO and you have a life of leveling...you can even sit at a certain level. Again, if you looking for this, then your'e on the wrong type of game.

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Did you not make your own thread to articulate your opinion? We know it by now. It is not necessary trying to discredit anyone who has a different view. That doesn't change anything.
Besides, this is only your definition of "hack & slash", you should abstain from generalizing. A lot of people actually like progression and having very strong characters at the end of a league.

but he is right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_and_slash

so in fact its not his deffinition but the real deffinition

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BarbarianBear wrote:

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TBorgezHU3 wrote:

is ggg screwing up POE on purpose, so the migration to POE2 doesn't seem as crappy as it's been?

Perhaps they are making sure the game doesnt die like every game thats power creep goes too far? Perhaps when everyone who tested PoE 2 loved the pace and the style they realized that making a game isnt fun when no one ever experienced the art or the moves or the designs or the feeling of the game they put all their time into making for you.

Perhaps someone out there needs to make a stick figure arpg thats and idle clicker for all the people who seem to not like playing games but just like clicking and all the content is one shotted so that all the people here throwing out hate can enjoy a game with no substance.

perhaps that.

Deserves repeating

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BarbarianBear wrote:

Thanks for the kind words dude. Theirs a type of fan that doesnt get it because like every game ive seen shut down because of powercreep the ones who do this can only think of me me me me. they dont care about the games health or the longevity, they dont care about the company or the jobs of the people who have put so many hours into making a game, the sound, the art and more. They care only for their experience. then the game shuts down and everyone knows why and talks about it later.

An alcoholic doesn't care about the vineyard the wine comes from, or takes time to savor the taste of the wine and discuss its unique flavors. And if one vineyard runs dry, there are other places out there to get his bottles from.

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TBorgezHU3 wrote:

is ggg screwing up POE on purpose, so the migration to POE2 doesn't seem as crappy as it's been?

They are simply bringing it in-line with how poe2 will launch because they are going to share an endgame. You had to know this was coming. How many years have they embraced power creep? I mean , they had to know what they were doing right? They could have stopped at any time. It's almost as if they pulled a bait and switch. But that's a conspiracy theory for another day.

More than likely this is a cycle, and when they get it hammered out and release poe2 then the power creep will begin again. I already played through it, so not really interested in doing it again. That's personal though and many people will enjoy it. Everyone has their walk away point, doesn't make the game bad. Wishing misfortune on the game is bad though.

Let me go on record saying I wish all the best for the game and the players who remain.

For the OP:
I think yes somehow, they are "downgrading" their game to be more slow and much less powerful characters to make the powercreep for the future POE2 expansions.

That not means will be a bad game but means will be absolutely a different game, since POE1 and POE2 will be the same game there is no place for POE1, then the current POE need to die to make POE2 have a chance.

I cant wait for "POE Classic", not to play, just to laugh a lot when that happens xDDD

For people who still repeat all the time "click and oneshot all off screen ir not ARPG":
I like it the game when you had the chance to play as "hold click and all die off-screen" and you also had other options to play the game, builds that gave me less chances to die also, crazy builds that replicate stuff from anime or other games somehow, POE is not that game anymore, good for that people who go against that stuff, congratulations, you dont like to kill all oneshot off-screen but you like to be killed oneshot off-screen xD

I will try the league (just because frozen orb copy) and I will try POE2, but when I lose the trust on a videogames company (like happened with blizzard) make me super hard to forget that for future stuff and stay playing the same time as "old times" and not quit fast or feel any kind of hype.

But is good because maybe other people make games taking in account that people who quit POE now and make something similar of what GGG did the last 2 years, will be awesome if GGG do but is not what they want to do and if was me who do a game then probable I will chose what I want to do and not what others want, of course as consumer I have to support what I enjoy, I expect to see some future support badges on that who repeat all the time "no clicker game for POE" -.- or I will start to think are just trolling.

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BarbarianBear wrote:

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TBorgezHU3 wrote:

is ggg screwing up POE on purpose, so the migration to POE2 doesn't seem as crappy as it's been?

Perhaps they are making sure the game doesnt die like every game thats power creep goes too far? Perhaps when everyone who tested PoE 2 loved the pace and the style they realized that making a game isnt fun when no one ever experienced the art or the moves or the designs or the feeling of the game they put all their time into making for you.

Perhaps someone out there needs to make a stick figure arpg thats and idle clicker for all the people who seem to not like playing games but just like clicking and all the content is one shotted so that all the people here throwing out hate can enjoy a game with no substance.

perhaps that.

Using people that attended exilecon is an awful way to determine if something is fun. Of course those that went there enjoyed it, they are mostly streamers and those that are so hard into their super fan brains that they believe GGG can do no wrong. These are not the people you want feedback from. GGG could make a flaming turd and they would love it.

Still don't get how playing the EXACT same game, but slower, is somehow harder. Nothing was done to gameplay from a boss or monster perspective. It's the same generic shit time in time out, only now it's 40% longer. More time spent running to the next group, more time spent staring at their repetitive maps, More time spent per screen holding my attack button in a sea of particle effects that completely obfuscate anything involving my character, less time enjoying the catharsis I came to ARPGs for.

Nothing has been added to make this extended time sink any more fun, just longer. It's not harder, the bosses hit the same, the patterns are the same, and its the same shit most people have seen for upwards of 4-5 years now.

This is like watching a movie, but being forced to put it on half speed. Sure it takes longer, you may notice a few details, but you're certainly not going to enjoy it as much as the movie at the correct speed.