POE is not a FREE TO PLAY

poe is pay to win cuz u cant fit so many items in 4 stash tabs u have to buy more to stay competitive in the game's economy

"Free to play" does not mean "no P2W elements".

So PoE is F2P, but it's not free. People need to grasp the difference between F2P and FREE before joining this debate.

Call PoE a "cash grab", and you may be right. Call it immoral, and you may be right. Call it P2W, and you may be right. But the moment you say "it's not "F2P", you are wrong. A game can be both F2P and P2W. In fact, most F2P games have some sort of P2W factor, if we look outside the big PvP genres, that have a tendency to draw in millions to a point where they do not "need" heavy encouraged sale options.

I agree that some stash tabs are (necessary?) very helpful. But that's a small one-time payment. There are tab sales, you can grab a bunch of quad tabs for eff all.

the big difference with pay2play is that if you find out that you dont like the game (which you can do without having paid anything) then you didnt waste money on something you were not sure of what you were getting. this model lets you have unlimited time on deciding if the game is worth putting money into.
and those that dont have a cent to spare, are stil able to play the game and is therefor free to play.

however, realisticly most gamers would be required to purchase atleast some items if you want to avoid the most frustrating and disadvantaged feeling while running a league, which i think is no more then fair if your so deep into it that you actually require said purchases.

i do think its dumb however to complain about it unless your unaware of the insane practices some other games implement in so called free to play. and i think ggg implemented one of the fairer systems you wil find nowadays.
this complaint should be about the whole term of free 2 play in general and complaining at a single company about a term that they didnt even define is silly.

the game did turn into a stash overload tho, and it would have graced ggg to make the currencytab a free tab, or even have the option to unlock tabs instead of cosmetics for league achievements,

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emulatin wrote:

poe is pay to win cuz u cant fit so many items in 4 stash tabs u have to buy more to stay competitive in the game's economy

This is assuming that everyone plays in Trade.

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DoubleU wrote:

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emulatin wrote:

poe is pay to win cuz u cant fit so many items in 4 stash tabs u have to buy more to stay competitive in the game's economy

This is assuming that everyone plays in Trade.

i bet 90% play trade

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emulatin wrote:

i bet 90% play trade

I would bet it is less that that.

Oh nice, another one of these threads. Maybe we've moved on from the normal pre-league tantrums to debating P2W. Maybe we can have an AH thread soon.

And the cycle continues.

Just to throw in my two cents, the game is barely F2P and falls short of P2W. I would say you could play this game pretty solidly for 50-100 for the rest of the games lifetime which is a pretty sweet deal. It's pay to play.

For those claiming it's P2W, please tell me the benefit you get from buying your Nth tab and beyond in terms of "winning". Once you hit a certain threshold, it does nothing.

I'll wait.

Whatever, really, we'll be playing next weekend, any way :D

*Takes a sip of a Vanilla Wafer infused cup of milk*