Reaper Minion Shouldnt Exist

Summon Reaper is a upcoming Skill Gem, that aims to be a Single/Solo'able Minion.

Upon summon, it will destroy all and any minions you control. No other minion can be used. So this raises a lot of concerns. During the Livestream, it's stated that it is to be "The Single Most Powerful Minion". So let me ask some Questions:

1) If no other minion can be summoned with Reaper, how can it keep up with Clear Speed compared to most Sirus-Endgame summoner builds?

2) Is Reaper going to be Immortal, like a Harbinger? If Reaper is the only minion that is to be out, it's going to be ambushed and destroyed if it's Health Pool is not compensated for Endgame's intense monster count; and Endgame bosses like Sirus and his damage.

3) Will Reaper have Damage/Speed/movement modifiers that are equal to Minion Counts up to 30-40 multiplicatively? If Reaper's modifiers cant compare or keep up with at least 30 minions worth of damage, then he will be very underwhelming.

4) If Reaper is to be THE single most powerful minion as the the Livestream claims him to be, wont that make most, if not all other minions very unfavorable? Controlling a single powerful God-Tier minion that only wants to battle alone, seems way more appealing then say micromanaging an army of 40.

My last thoughts are as such:

Summon Reaper is either going to be incredibly overwhelming in power that makes all other minions look like squishy babies, or very underwhelming in power stagnation the closer you get to Sirus with it. I feel there will be no way to Balance it, if it's going to be as portrayed by the Livestream.

A single most powerful Minion that wants nothing to do with any other minion, sounds like a huge balance issue waiting to happen. If it's really God-Tier, everyone is going to drop what their doing and play nothing but this Skill; at least in terms of Minion players.

I foresee a terrible, mighty power creep with this skill alone.

Summon Reaper I feel, shouldnt exist.
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Also would like to add, that Reaper has no requirements to be summoned; unlike Herald of Agony's scorpion.

Which means Reaper doesnt need an Upkeep in order to be continuously summoned.

Thats already overwhelming both Herold of Agony and Purity.
Last edited by raysuko#6658 on Jul 17, 2021, 4:36:51 AM
Reaper is not immortal. It eats other minions to heal itself or make itself more powerful.
You can have other minions too but they will be weaker and can be eaten by Reaper anytime. No one will be able to tell you its Ai until actual playing.

However, you can direct it to attack by summoning it, so no need for predator support.
It can act as a sidekick, or some builds will go all out to make it main (sole) dps minion, feeding it say skeletons as such.

But since it is sole minion and doesn't taunt, you can still be targeted easily, even if Reaper has high dps.
Last edited by suitto#4400 on Jul 17, 2021, 5:08:43 AM
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raysuko wrote:
Also would like to add, that Reaper has no requirements to be summoned; unlike Herald of Agony's scorpion.

Which means Reaper doesnt need an Upkeep in order to be continuously summoned.

Thats already overwhelming both Herold of Agony and Purity.


Without patch notes or anything in the game yet it's kinda early to speculate on mechanics and behaviors.
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Now we need an unique item that gives you +1 maximum reaper summoned at the time. Let's endlessly cosplay solaris+lunaris encounter.
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KingExodusGG wrote:
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raysuko wrote:
Also would like to add, that Reaper has no requirements to be summoned; unlike Herald of Agony's scorpion.

Which means Reaper doesnt need an Upkeep in order to be continuously summoned.

Thats already overwhelming both Herold of Agony and Purity.


Without patch notes or anything in the game yet it's kinda early to speculate on mechanics and behaviors.


Nah. You can speculate pretty easily tbqh. For instance I totally agree with OP. Creating a summon that most summon builds either *cant* or *wont* use is pretty poor design.

We already have an amazing core summon in Animate Guardian. Having another summon that exists *that can delete* your animated guardian is absolutely pants on head dumb.

Its clear they intend this to somehow be another version of 'summoner'; but why would you purposefully make a skill that essentially nullifies any and all potential synergy. Ok cool it might open up some new build; but there's no *possible* way that it will be a better iteration/build option than Animate Guardian + summons. Unless the Reaper just gives insane buffs while alone; and then at that point there's no reason to go other summons if the Reaper is *that good*. (Which it wont be)
Last edited by jjb1214#5853 on Jul 17, 2021, 6:54:33 AM
First.
Sounds like a noobtrap.

Second.
Its lvl 28+ gem, so no rly help with starting lvl1+ issues. At 30+ you can set up spectres and golems.

Third.
Single minion. Failed idea on purpose, very likely. I dont have reasons to believe to "powerful" minion word.
Reaper can be a good sidekick for bleed builds, and not limited to necromancer.

Last edited by suitto#4400 on Jul 17, 2021, 6:26:05 AM
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jjb1214 wrote:
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KingExodusGG wrote:
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raysuko wrote:
Also would like to add, that Reaper has no requirements to be summoned; unlike Herald of Agony's scorpion.

Which means Reaper doesnt need an Upkeep in order to be continuously summoned.

Thats already overwhelming both Herold of Agony and Purity.


Without patch notes or anything in the game yet it's kinda early to speculate on mechanics and behaviors.


Nah. You can speculate pretty easily tbqh. For instance I totally agree with OP. Creating a summon that most summons builds either *cant* or *wont* use is pretty poor design.

We already have an amazing core summon in Animate Armor. Having another summon that exists *that can delete* your animated armor is absolutely pants on head dumb.

Its clear they intend this to somehow be another version of 'summoner'; but why would you purposefully make a skill that essentially nullifies any and all potential synergy. Ok cool it might open up some new build; but there's no *possible* way that it will be a better iteration/build option than Animate Armor + summons. Unless the Reaper just gives insane buffs while alone; and then at that point there's no reason to go other summons if the Reaper is *that good*. (Which it wont be)


What is animate armor?
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Animate Guardian; sorry.

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