3.14 Retention Rates

I've always thought most people played on the stand-alone client - although looking at the steam charts is interesting too.

That Graph has a lot of leagues basically saying "Come on GGG, look at me and see what's wrong with me. Please Fix me!

Years of leagues and still not really much developed in the face of these trends to keep player retention. I guess that is the trade-off for have 4 3-month league cycles unfortunately :/

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Knivingdude wrote:

I've always thought most people played on the stand-alone client - although looking at the steam charts is interesting too.

I think they do but with samples like this for it to matter that its steam vs standalone you'd need a credible reason why steam players don't represent the norm.

Steam could only be 10% of the playerbase it'd still be a very solid sample to use for stats purposes.

The numbers GGG operates with when they talk about a "successful launch" and the numbers Steam operates with, aren't that different. It seems to me that more than 50% are using Steam, which makes Steam Charts a valid tool for estimation.

It's ok if people quit 2 months into a league, but...... if things remain the way they are now, there wont' be another league for me and many others.

I quit because all of my favorite builds have been nerfed either directly or indirectly. All the remaining options are based on your typical harvest crafted BS meaning you have to dedicate your life to either crafting or earning currency to buy crafted gear.

Finding and following guides is really difficult now with all the nerfs of past leagues. I started 4 builds this league and each one required such heavy investment and were just clunky to make work so I abandoned them all.

sitting here with over 100 ex in the bank and no desire to continue playing, reaching a t11 map and no boss kills this league but over 100 hours played.

The launch was absolutely scuffed and then I realized I'm simply burned out... It's like there's too much stuff you gotta re-do every 3 months.

The Maven content was fun at first, but I CBA doing it again.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

I'm not denying it's the least... just that it's not the apocalypse.

Shag just wants to see what he wants to see, typical of fanboying lol.

the new craftable watchstones, while cool and all, are just too much of another chore that you are going to have to do every single league on top of everything else that you have to redo every single league.

Welp, got my auspicious and laden watchstones in valdo, thousands and thousands of alts to get...

then you have all of the other specific watchstones that you crafted with thousands and thousands of alts in every other region.

All of a sudden standard is looking a lot better now..

Considering the amout of defiance put in balance choices, the lack of new content and the bugs that all were introduced with 3.14 the numbers are pretty good.