Trade bots ever banned? Reporting feature exist?

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Shagsbeard wrote:

You don't have to trade... you choose to. And then you blame others for the outcome.

You don't have to use auction house. You can trade or not like before even with AH.

I wouldn't have a server to log onto within six months.

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Nubatron wrote:

In that instance, they would not target sniping (other than items that are under priced by the seller). They would instead buy up all a specific consumable and mark them up. If they are able to control the market, which they will once they get enough currency, the mark up will be noticeable.

It could be of course, but again, for it to be a real thing, people should run bots en masse, which is kinda doubtful IF there will be some ban system in place.
Anyway, as far as I remember it already happened multiple times even with current clunky trade and without bots, just some group of people finding it somewhat fun was enough to manipulate the pixel price of certain consumables, like fossils and shit.
IMHO the generic fear of automation, be it auction or bots, immediately ruining the game is highly overrated.

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vladesch wrote:

Best way to beat the bots is an AH.

What is it? Auto Hotkey?

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karoollll2534 wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

You don't have to trade... you choose to. And then you blame others for the outcome.

You don't have to use auction house. You can trade or not like before even with AH.

Shagsbeard likely meant SSF, but his comment has multiple meanings. I can honestly say that I didn't trade for a single map this league except an optional one. I wanted to finish Tirn's End, so I traded for Perandus Manor (which funny enough had a Cadiro inside that sold me another Perandus Manor).

If you know how to play the game, you don't have to trade for maps. There are certain things that absolutely require trading to get it within a reasonable amount of time. Maps are not part of that grouping though.

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Nubatron wrote:

If you know how to play the game, you don't have to trade for maps. There are certain things that absolutely require trading to get it within a reasonable amount of time. Maps are not part of that grouping though.

Are you referring to one of my previous posts:

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Having to constantly trade to sustain entertaining mapping experience is what ruin the game.

Slow or fast but at some point you will be able to constantly run t14-16 map all the time. However i was talking aboutENTERTAINING mapping experience.
While im sure there are people out there who enjoy playing vanilla version of PoE while interacting with completely random content but there are also people who have goals and preferences.

I don't want to run all of maps. I especially enjoyed previous atlas system, being able to pick one map i like and run it all the time. So my first goal is to get as close as possible to previous state of game. For that i have to constantly sell items to afford sextants, scarabs, chisels, vaals etc. that makes maps more interesting (in reality rather than making maps more interesting, scarabs and sextants make maps fun because vanilla is boring) and "sustain" running specfic map i want to run without having to bother with other maps.

This clown is still online selling maps. There was a short period a couple of days after I reported him to ggg support that he went offline for about 8 hours then after that it has been 24/7 again. I guess I have to get me one of those trade bots and just run it on an alt account instead of playing this game legitimately to earn currency.

If it wasn't for these cheating clowns the amount of currency I earned would've most likely been double or more.

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karoollll2534 wrote:

You don't have to use auction house. You can trade or not like before even with AH.

This again?

Drop rates (of useful gear) are based (in part) on how easy it is to trade. An AH would make trading (for those who wanted to trade) much, much easier.

The developers, in turn, would then nerf drop rates until the average progression of the average player was commiserate with the progress rate prior to the introduction of said AH.

That would drastically impact SSF play-styles (detrimentally).

That's basically what Chris Wilson says (because he isn't too likely to take the game in the direction of option b in his example):

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Chris wrote:

Easy trade means reducing drop rates
Compare two hypothetical games. In the first game, trade is very difficult. The majority of items that can't be used by your character are not traded to other people. In the second game, trade is very easy. Many of the items that you can't use are traded to other people for items that you can. In the second game, because of trade, you have a much higher acquisition rate of useful items. While that sounds great if you want instant gratification, in reality it means that the second game either receives reduced drop rates relative to the first, or ends up being a whole lot easier and less challenging to achieve goals in.

Source: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2025870

So ... YES, your AH does impact me, even if I don't use it at all.

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Unquietheart wrote:

An AH would make trading (for those who wanted to trade) much, much easier.

It won't. Auction will make the trade slow and impossible to get cheap items for the average John Doe. Ppl asking to add auction are just trolls.

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Droch_Rendger wrote:

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Unquietheart wrote:

An AH would make trading (for those who wanted to trade) much, much easier.

It won't. Auction will make the trade slow and impossible to get cheap items for the average John Doe. Ppl asking to add auction are just trolls.

I suspect that the people who say they want an AH are actually serious. They do want one. I very much doubt they understand the impact an AH would have though.

Beyond that, I really don't understand how you could reach the conclusion that an AH would make trading MORE difficult. Historical evidence suggests just the opposite.

Currently, selling merchandise requires the SELLER to be sufficiently engaged to actually bother to respond to whispers to buy the item they have listed, and requires them to leave whatever activity they're currently involved in. Currently that's not the case for much of what's listed as "for sale". The seller may well toss it in a tab and put a price on it, but it's not actually worth it to the seller to do the actual legwork necessary to move the product.

An AH would automate that. Leaving whatever activity you're engaged in would cease to be an issue. Interacting with the buyer would no longer be necessary.

All that would make it easier to buy and sell. Which is exactly what Chris Wilson says.