Leaving game Because it became a frankenstein's monster.

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Game is NOT newcomers friendly, and without newcomers in some moment game will die.

WoW and LoL are similarly bloated and not dying to my knowledge.

Because WOW and LOL are newcomers and casual friendly, in wow you just need to do daily quest and 1 on week run some pug dungeon and you will have top gear, in POE you can play 8 hours on day and you will not have even close of top gear. In wow you not need to study how to craft yours gear, not need to know last 6 league mechanic to make something, just grind or buy on AH (no need to look on some 3-rs part site) mats and make what you need.

So WOW and LOL are not even similar as POE

You didn't even say anything about LOL, a purely pvp game where you will face players with much more experience than you instead of mindless monsters you can easily overcome with a proper guide.

Played LOL for short time, I am DOTA player, and Dota and LoL are some different genres (MOBA), POE is RPG, and closest that is WOW (MMORPG) so I make my example on WOW

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rafa77 wrote:

I have 60 exalts in my build. I reached a point where almost all upgrades that costs around 20~50 ex, a few 10 ex, but the majority is gonna be very expensive.

You're overthinking this whole thing. If you're measuring your next upgrades in double-digit exalts per slot, you've beat the game. If casually mowing down monsters no longer appeals to you, grinding for 100 exalts doesn't appeal to you, and you can't come up with any extra goals for yourself (HC, SSF, collect every unique, gamble ID watchers eyes or high variance div card sets, a bunch more things ppl do), then you won. It's over. You can uninstall or take a year long break.

It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the game.

It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you.

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temudzin wrote:

Because WOW and LOL are newcomers and casual friendly, in wow you just need to do daily quest and 1 on week run some pug dungeon and you will have top gear, in POE you can play 8 hours on day and you will not have even close of top gear. In wow you not need to study how to craft yours gear, not need to know last 6 league mechanic to make something, just grind or buy on AH (no need to look on some 3-rs part site) mats and make what you need.

So WOW and LOL are not even similar as POE

This is biased reductionism. 'PoE is newbie friendly, all you have to do is follow any of the great beginner guides and you will smash maps with a simple summoner build that plays the game for you'. That's just as fair of a reduction as the ones you applied to those other games.

I'm sure you could come back with a list of things that a new player will have a hard time doing in PoE, but my point is that I could also list things about those other games that are hard for new players to do that you chose to omit.

Diablo II: Resurrected is coming and then Diablo IV. I for one am looking forward to ridding myself of this overly rippy game and going back to the roots of Diablo.

Diablo II was fun. PoE isn't fun, it's just a grind fest of frustration and over the top complicated builds that get nerfed every 3 months, no thanks, it's gotten way beyond old at this point.

Diablo IV looks to be following in the D2 tradition and in the interim, we get D2: Resurrected.

oh, yes, it's game, not a job

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Johny_Snow wrote:

You didn't even say anything about LOL, a purely pvp game where you will face players with much more experience than you instead of mindless monsters you can easily overcome with a proper guide.

The whole 'face players with more experience than you' isn't correct. LoL still retains a massive player base and thus the matchmaking draws from a much greater pool of players whose skills are close to your own. Now if you wanted to compare a MOBA with comparable player numbers to PoE like Smite, you'd have a point. I can tell you from experience that Smite's matchmaking is completely fucked on account of the dwindling player base.

Also, comparing a hack-and-slash ARPG to a MOBA is like comparing apples to lawnmowers.

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Smear wrote:

Diablo II: Resurrected is coming and then Diablo IV. I for one am looking forward to ridding myself of this overly rippy game and going back to the roots of Diablo.

Diablo II was fun. PoE isn't fun, it's just a grind fest of frustration and over the top complicated builds that get nerfed every 3 months, no thanks, it's gotten way beyond old at this point.

Diablo IV looks to be following in the D2 tradition and in the interim, we get D2: Resurrected.

If you do leave for D2R, I'll see you again for the next league. If you didn't stay in D2 grinding the uber trio to this day, you won't be staying with D2R for long either. That still has a nonexistent endgame.

And don't get your hopes up about Diablo 4. I don't expect Blizzard to have learned anything about all the shitty concepts behind Diablo 3, and will instead make yet another ARPG that tries to appeal to everyone while ultimately appealing to no one.