Don't suggest noobs to start the game in STD - FOR REAL

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

Wanted to test my new build and didn't want to level a new character so I checked STD and my goodness - that place is such a travesty!
Makes me feel bad seeing how many new players play there and are being suggested to play there; starting the game on a slow, boring & hard mode.

- Half-decent items are on sale at 5x the price while being on sale for a year.
- Common uniques that are 1 alch in leagues are 10 chaos in STD because everyone is too lazy to trade.
- Currency exchanges have 3x bigger trading margins
- Items sell for a fair price in weeks, not hours
- You thought exchanging exalts was bad in league? Try getting a response for a rare item in STD
- You will be earning way less than what you would in leagues due to extra rewards from league mechanics being missing and boss items or influenced bases already being dropped to their lowest possible value
- Underpricing an item won't make you reconsider the price through getting spammed with messages, instead you'll just undersell it due to low player count, which is a problem for noobs

Slightly tangent but the chat also seems more burnt out, whiny and snappy - even more than what you normally see!

All in all, I believe new players should not be playing STD as it's simply way slower, more boring, less active, imbalanced, more frustrating & unrepresentative of what the game really ought to be.

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QuiquePoE wrote:

Funny how everything you listed has to do with trade. As if that was the main concern a new player has.

Most likely, someone new to the game is quite lost and trying hard to understand the mechanics. Trade being just one more of those things he needs to figure out.

And in that regard, standard should be less complicated if for nothing else than to avoid a legue mechanic on top of everything else.

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PyleWarlord wrote:

you forgot the point here, STD removes any time restraints.

also things like HH are way cheaper.

also i think that you didnt actually try to trade, instead you just stared poe.ninja

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Shagsbeard wrote:

I would switch over to Standard except that they haven't given me tools I would need to clean up my stash. Even a simple "delete all in this tab" would work.

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Reinhart wrote:

My experience actually tells me that the absolute majority of players in standard respond on trade requests where as no one responds in ultimatum. A lot of things appear cheaper in temp league but are simply just listed by people who dont even bother to sell it because they are in a hyperfocused zoom-zoom mode to get rank 12055 on the ladder.