PoE peaked in 3.13 and I am afraid that it may never go back up again... version:2

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innervation wrote:

Not really. Adding Harvest was the biggest change this game had ever seen. Nerfing it was a step toward the status quo, a.k.a. what it has always been.

Implying that you are some kind of Goldilocks customer whose preferences are 'just right' to gauge what will and wont drive player retention is arrogant and almost certainly not true.

I may be arrogant but I am just projecting what are most players complaining about. Giving something good and just when players start enjoying that thing too much and then taking it away is NOT a good way to manage your in-game balance. It is simply insightful and surely going to hurt GGG. This will not be about devs having balls to make huge changes and stick to their word anymore, this is a matter of stability and competency. Inconsistent state of in-game balance is surely disturbing the majority of the player base and the strain it puts on players is definitely palpable.

If there are no players left to play your game, sticking to your guns when it comes to nerfs will eventually mean nothing. This is a game-killer decision making and GGG has made all the wrong choices at once.

Your thread was closed for a reason. Why are you re-opening it? That's just asking for trouble, and probably a temporary ban.
Your opinion was heard - and obviously most players do not agree - stop trying to force it down our throat.

Also... quite frankly (and I know this isn't very eloquent, but couldn't be more appropriate): cry more.

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Lacceh wrote:

Your thread was closed for a reason. Why are you re-opening it? That's just asking for trouble, and probably a temporary ban.
Your opinion was heard - and obviously most players do not agree - stop trying to force it down our throat.

Also... quite frankly (and I know this isn't very eloquent, but couldn't be more appropriate): cry more.

My thread was closed because some kids were exchanging insults at each other. This is a discussion worth having and I am not going to shy away from discussing it just because some kids wanted it to be closed.
From what I have seen, the support my threads got is at the rate of 1 to 9, 1 for against my arguments, and 9 for supporting them.

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Lacceh wrote:

Your opinion was heard - and obviously most players do not agree - stop trying to force it down our throat.

Also... quite frankly (and I know this isn't very eloquent, but couldn't be more appropriate): cry more.

First of stop flaming.
Secondly dont speak for "most players" no i dont think most players do not agree.

Basically crafting and endgame was at its peak in 3.13 the most fun time i had in this game since 2011.
Standard is literally a ghosttown in 3.14 but in 3.13 Standard was alive and on fire. What goolden time it was to play the game in the 3.13 era is hard to picture in words.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

I may be arrogant but I am just projecting what are most players complaining about.

You don't know what most players think / do / like.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

If there are no players left to play your game, sticking to your guns when it comes to nerfs will eventually mean nothing. This is a game-killer decision making and GGG has made all the wrong choices at once.

You have 36 challenges, this already makes this thread invalid.

Took long enough to point the 36 completed challenges

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Lacceh wrote:

Your thread was closed for a reason. Why are you re-opening it? That's just asking for trouble, and probably a temporary ban.
Your opinion was heard - and obviously most players do not agree - stop trying to force it down our throat.

How do you get to the conclusion that most players do not agree? At least in this thread, most players seem to agree.

How many, like 5 or 6?

Oh I just LOVE how you criticize me for saying 'most players do not agree', BUT you simply turn a blind eye when OP says the exact same thing ("I'm just projecting what most players are complaining about").
Nice job guys, amazing confirmation bias.

As for how I know? Well that's pretty simple. Numbers. People are still playing and enjoying the game just like before. Steam charts.

Harvest was OP AF, it's been changed, and it's never coming back, ever. Deal with it, and... GET. OVER. YOURSELF. ALREADY.

Also, no, 'some kids' did not want your thread closed. A GGG forum moderator closed your thread. Are you calling her a kid?

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Char1983 wrote:

How do you get to the conclusion that most players do not agree? At least in this thread, most players seem to agree.

Oh my goodness... so if I go to a small-scale protest, and most ppl seem to agree with the message there, then surely most ppl in the city, or region, or world, must also agree, right? You must be a genius.

(I've already answered your question above. AND, why aren't you being intellectually CONSISTENT and calling out OP for claiming to know what most players complain about? Especially considering that MOST PLAYERS do not complain, they are too busy with other things, including enjoying PoE).