[STATISTICS] Look at how badly Ultimatum has been received...
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Im curious to see the steep falloff in player numbers in the coming weeks once they broad masses lvl their chars to maps and discover there is lack of endgame.
Oneshotting t16 map bosses cannot be the answer. Last edited by zzang#1847 on Apr 29, 2021, 8:41:07 AM
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" Well said. This 100%. |
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The league is already running out of steam in my circle of friends, generally we play at least 3 weeks straight every night and right now some of them are already skipping nights after 1 week.
Last edited by ffogell#6809 on Apr 29, 2021, 10:39:56 AM
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" Not really. Whether the numbers end up down 20%, up 20%, or the same... 1) people will believe whatever they want - we still have people today saying Ritual had fantastic player retention. Not because it did - the data don't support that at all - but because they were retained and are projecting. 2) those who are able to read charts will attribute the things they like to a rise in retention, and/or things they dislike to a dip. What this means for Ultimatum is you will have people convinced that nerfed deep delve nerfed fractured fossil nerfed builds nerfed Harvest bad league mechanic bad GGG league launch bad performance (texture streaming) are the SOLE cause of a player dip in retention (assuming that's where we're heading). So you're certainly entitled to say 'well said', but the 'this 100%' part won't fly for this explanation any more than it will the competing alternatives. Player retention is a multivariate question with a multivariate answer. |
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Trial Master : I expect a better performance
Me: Why? 5 fps is not enough? Last edited by Suhuy#2176 on Apr 29, 2021, 12:19:09 PM
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Boooooooooooo. Boooo
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I don't really do the math thing. Thats what PoB is for. But all that matters is you. Do you like it or not. These kinda threads seem like you're looking for peers to justify your choices
Git R Dun!
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I have done every ultimatum to the end and i got nothing out of it, i think my best reward was like 5 pure chaos and thats it.
99% of the currency i made this league was not from the league mechanic, which is not ok. So no rewards, shit performance, league design is a lazy repeat of the last one plus no atlas shuffle and bizarre nerfs to endgame Yeah no way in hell i am going 40/40 i might even not go 36 this league. All in all i totally get why ppl would quit this shitshow of a league. [Removed by Support] Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” Last edited by jackof8lades#6863 on Apr 30, 2021, 7:16:46 AM
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In terms of player numbers and retention, it's on par with Ritual which was an endgame expansion.
You should expect retention to be a little worse as the number of new players are a lot higher than past leagues. Many will play for a bit and realize they don't like ARPGs. However the number of players still playing after 2 weeks is higher than every league in the past and on par with ritual. |
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Do keep in mind with these numbers that Ultimatum numbers should be staggered by a day because the larger portion of the playerbase skipped/forgave launch day because of the issues rather than drop entirely. Most just treated it as a delay in the launch of the league rather than call it bad content and leave. So when comparing it to other leagues compare it to the previous day of another league. Ex: Day 4 of ultimatum to day 3 of any other league.
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