Why does Ultimatum feel unrewarding?

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Unquietheart wrote:

I didn't play the Ritual league. I've only seen one or two Ritual encounters,

Ritual was like you get to choose one of 12 pieces of good loot.

Ult is like you get to choose as much trash as you want.

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Xandharba wrote:

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ultimatum rewards are very good

Lol !!! Maybe you have been well rewarded but it is not the case for all people, I rarely have 3-4 chaos reward, most of the time it is crap rewards like perandus coins, trash items etc. Ultimatum is a waste of time, I skip, Ritual was far better.

I can sympathise with the people saying "even if you don't get chaos orbs directly, you still get 4-5c of value"

The problem is that value is from like.. 17% quality Phase Run gems.

Seriously, who's got the motivation to trade that stuff away? It's value-less 'value'.

One of Ritual's advantages was that you got to pick what you felt had value.

Ultimatum shifting all the choice over onto the enemy mechanics, then making the mechanics less relevant than whether you get a wave of projectile based opponent types who attack simultaneously, has not improved the perception of 'value' even if, technically, there is still 'value' there.

Plus, if I wanted to play even semi-hardcore, I'd play a game with death logs & better in-game player feedback loops.


Edit: Just as an example... I typically avoid the repetitive path-of-trading game & am basically out of chaos atm. So I did a quick tally of my alts/gemcutters/scours/bindings and apparently I'm sitting on 4-5 exalts worth of those currencies - they're just not currencies I've ever bothered selling. They are valuable, and yet not things with value that interests me.

No choices, no idea what single random reward comes next + it is a poker game and I don´t like the whole idea. That´s it.

So Ritual is about 20 times better. Actually I have not seen any Ritual yet (Act 9), so it is probaly just hidden in maps.

I would say Ultimatum should not make it to standard league, but it would be nice to have Ritual in the campaign. It does not make a big difference in trade league, but it is just gold in ssf (so much more fun to play).

In trade league you can just buy stuff. That is not the real game for me, so it is disappointing in ssf to have no more rituals in the leveling process.