Streamer priority confirmed. PoE is free to play, so play it for free, but Boycott GGG.

I just want them to commit to a self-imposed set of rules, and to make those rules know.

First should be "we treat all players fairly". No one gets better drops. No one gets to skip queues. No one gets access to servers with significantly better (more expensive) service except for effects based on geography out of GGG's control.

Second, I'd like to see a commitment to allocating their resources responsibly. They should be game focused... not publicity focused. Advertising is one thing. Handing an influencer a "pile of cash" to play your game for two hours is not ethical.
I personally think the obvious streamer privilege's is complete bull crap, however it's GGG's ultimate decision on doing so or not.

Since the whole que debacle I have spent a great amount of time watching various twitch streams and youtube videos trying to compare my drop rates in solo play compared to some of the bigger streamers for POE. I can tell you I notice a massive difference in drop rates and most importantly what seems to be quantity rates much higher with similar or exact same set ups in the best way I could duplicate. Now I understand RNG is RNG, but there seems to be a pretty obvious pattern in my opinion.

Finally the one thing that actually pisses me off the most is streamers given free mystery boxes which I can confirm in a video uploaded recently by one of the streamers where he states they were given to him by GGG ( I assume he is not lying). After 7+ years, hours upon hours of playing this game chasing a mirror, and thousands of dollars spent on mtxs and supporter packs, I can say I personally won't spend another penny on these and my excitement for the game has severely been decreased as well.

I think the priorities are a horribly bad decision and is a big middle finger the majority of your player base.
Years and years of advertising your challenge leagues as a way for players to experience a fresh economy and compete with other players. And then you go and screw that up as much as possible.

Oh and that supporter pack refund policy?

Disgraceful.
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They have definitely gotten the last of my money for a long time.
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xssarinx wrote:
...Finally the one thing that actually pisses me off the most is streamers given free mystery boxes...


I consider that very strange. These boxes show off their flashy MTXs which they hope makes others buy them. It's perfectly normal advertisement and does not confer any in-game advantage to the streamer.

The whole fiasco would be a lot less important if people in the priority Q couldn't compete with others. Still wouldn't be totally ethical (as it's a form of false advertisement) but would have been much less bad as it would not cast doubt on the "all racers have equal chances" principle.
May your maps be bountiful, exile
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SisterBlister wrote:

The whole fiasco would be a lot less important if people in the priority Q couldn't compete with others. Still wouldn't be totally ethical (as it's a form of false advertisement) but would have been much less bad as it would not cast doubt on the "all racers have equal chances" principle.


TBH you're just kidding yourself if you say "All racers have equal chances" - none of the people complaining have a chance anyway since all things being equal they would still be doing Act 3 while the speed runners are hitting maps.

Haven't seen any complaints from people who actually have a chance of competing or pushing ladders or dominating the economy which makes all this outrage pretty funny.
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DoubleU wrote:
They have definitely gotten the last of my money for a long time.


This is pretty much the TLDR on sentiments of many long time exiles I have spoken to about this situation, and the general developmental direction of the game.

It's more of final exasperated attempt to get through to them. It seems as though messing with their piles of money is the only thing that will garner attention.

Overall, it's pretty sad and disappointing.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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RandallPOE wrote:
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SisterBlister wrote:

The whole fiasco would be a lot less important if people in the priority Q couldn't compete with others. Still wouldn't be totally ethical (as it's a form of false advertisement) but would have been much less bad as it would not cast doubt on the "all racers have equal chances" principle.


TBH you're just kidding yourself if you say "All racers have equal chances" - none of the people complaining have a chance anyway since all things being equal they would still be doing Act 3 while the speed runners are hitting maps.

Haven't seen any complaints from people who actually have a chance of competing or pushing ladders or dominating the economy which makes all this outrage pretty funny.


Doncha think that's kinda short-sighted? The league start is a form of race. So picture this:

There is a big city marathon, 10k people participate, inkl 20 pros who will all come in well under the 2:30h mark. There is some kind of hiccup at the start, and instead of delaying the start, said pros and 50 other people are allowed to start while others can't yet. But everyone's clock is started.
Half an hour later the rest get to start.
How would you (being a 4:30h runner) feel about that? You're not affected, you would anyway not end up in the first 100. But wouldn't it bother you anyway?
And how would you feel if you're an ambitious amateur who normally comes in around the 3 hr mark and has a chance to get into the top 100? But this time, 50 others got a half hour head start. How would you feel now?

It doesn't matter that we normos don't have a chance in the rcae, we would still hate racing if others are given a head start.

Even monkeys have been shown to have an acute sense of fairness...
May your maps be bountiful, exile
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RandallPOE wrote:
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SisterBlister wrote:

The whole fiasco would be a lot less important if people in the priority Q couldn't compete with others. Still wouldn't be totally ethical (as it's a form of false advertisement) but would have been much less bad as it would not cast doubt on the "all racers have equal chances" principle.


TBH you're just kidding yourself if you say "All racers have equal chances" - none of the people complaining have a chance anyway since all things being equal they would still be doing Act 3 while the speed runners are hitting maps.

Haven't seen any complaints from people who actually have a chance of competing or pushing ladders or dominating the economy which makes all this outrage pretty funny.



The race offers an equal chance for everyone. But not everyone has equal skill. I, for example, cannot compete with the racers. That doesn't mean from a race perspective I am not given an equal chance.

So what is my stake in this? Well, I'm a spectator. I like seeing those racers go at it. Now I see a false start and it bothers me.

Regarding to what you've seen, I don't know how much you've watched. I've seen some respones from players that are pretty serious about the ladder and early waves.

Did you try turning it off and on again?
Isn't there a cash prize in SSFHC like used to be or was it taken away because of this? In that perspective boycott is more than deserved. These kind privileges push the game away from competitive E-sport.
What a disaster.
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