Are you tired of that harvest whine posts/threads too?

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Nomancs wrote:

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Char1983 wrote:

Gear progression is completely broken in Standard now

With all cheat legacy gear, Standard was ALWAYS broken in terms of gear - If you want to have any reasonable gear progression there, Standard would need a full wipe, and I doubt it will happen.

The funny thing is harvest gear is BETTER than legacy gear. I’d rather have insane dex stacking harvest-crafted bow than double-legacy death’s opus for a similar build. Even old kaom’s has nothing on explodey crit double curse chests - who needs life when you instaphase Sirus/Maven?

There are some exceptions, like legacy shav’s giving some more ES and legacy elder 2h weapons with built-in fortify as a 7th link (sometimes harvest 9-link helmets beat those, though). But overall, harvest made even legacy items obsolete; I don’t see those as a real blight on standard anymore.

So I’m glad harvest is getting nerfed. I’m not closed to some alternate suggestions folks have had about how to do it, but putting restraints on this monstrosity was very important.

Eh, I just don't get the outrage. The game has existed without anything like harvest for years, and people loved it then. Harvest gets added for 2 months, and people freak out when it gets removed.. why? Sure, harvest is nice, but things will just go back to how they were before, which was still fun.

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nerdstomperx wrote:

harvest is giga broken and should be removed completely its just stupid how easily u can craft items so im glad it gets gutted and hopefully it will be removed completely in poe 2

Stop parotting that nonsense. Very very few people can afford the mega gear. You don't have a single piece of it, so you're obviously just copying someone else's opinion without having experienced any of harvest...

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nibas wrote:

No, we're tired of people complaining about people complaining about harvest.

+100

Of course such a large nerf will be the topic of discussion for a while. The silly statements in the manifesto and the poor execution of the changes serve to amplify this effect.

It's just like back when maps drops were nerfed years ago "We don't want players to be overwhelmed by that +2 map the boss could previously drop". Every once in a while such a nugget is dropped by tencent employees which shows they really don't know how people play their game.

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retruber wrote:

Eh, I just don't get the outrage. The game has existed without anything like harvest for years, and people loved it then. Harvest gets added for 2 months, and people freak out when it gets removed.. why? Sure, harvest is nice, but things will just go back to how they were before, which was still fun.

Yeah. But if tencent had just posted "Harvest was too strong for our liking, so we removed it again", they would have gotten a hell of a lot less backlash. Sure, a few complaint threads, but nothing like now.
It's their own fault this blew up so badly...

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I_NO wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

The best part GGG won't back down shit if this was blizzard they would have already reverted the nerf by day 2.

Good on GGG.

Lmao now were are praising GGG for catering to elite players, alienating their larger player base, and essentially shooting themselves in the face from a balance perspective.

What a joke. GGG can do whatever the fuck the want to their game, but I dont want to hear any bullshit and an apology manifesto when the numbers come out and they get absolutely slaughtered by D2R.

Do you know how many other things GGG should be working on ?

Sure let's gut Harvest for 99% of players and not focus on the games performance, stability, loot table misery, game bloat, and map/region balance.

And before I hear they can do multiple things at once, show me when that was ever true. They do a poor job a spreading their resources and that combines with leadership making poor decisions on what they think is "important". (ie Harvest)

D2R? You play that for a month you don't play that forever stop it and I bet you don't even know what D2 end game was if you think it's a replacement LOL.

Ego mode activated lets go what have you done in D2? The game was all about rune hunting speed clearing baal runs that's it that's the entire game there's no new content.

I bet you didn't even have a 99 HC either because it was the same thing.

Baal runs and rune hunting meph farming every ladder.

You going to call that slaughtered? Oh please all they did was apply a paint job.

You got nothing.

Think that will replace PoE and be slaughtered? Far from it. Take those goggles off it doesn't help.

Oh young one, you just don't know.

The D2R numbers will dwarf anything PoE has ever done. Dont talk to me about retention and re-playability. I dumped over 10k hours in D2:LoD. Have you seen the playing habits of players in PoE? Decent numbers at league launch dwindled to a puddle after a few weeks.

Boss Runs and dedicated loot tables (TC) have always been superior imo, to what PoE encourages, which is speed filled currency runs to buy things (or craft if you are rich)

PoE's loot sucks. Like its fucking terrible. I mean what's the best thing a boss can even drop in PoE? A maven or Awakener orb? More currency.

I will (and I will join millions) in the joy of an actual loot drop from a boss that makes me yell and fist pump. Looking forward to that IK armor or Tals armor Baal drop. Or the Shako from Meph.

If you want to put on headhunter and grind splinters while you can barely see what the fuck you are doing, go ahead. I'm over it.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

The D2R numbers will dwarf anything PoE has ever done. Dont talk to me about retention and re-playability. I dumped over 10k hours in D2:LoD. Have you seen the playing habits of players in PoE? Decent numbers at league launch dwindled to a puddle after a few weeks.

Boss Runs and dedicated loot tables (TC) have always been superior imo, to what PoE encourages, which is speed filled currency runs to buy things (or craft if you are rich)

PoE's loot sucks. Like its fucking terrible. I mean what's the best thing a boss can even drop in PoE? A maven or Awakener orb? More currency.

I will (and I will join millions) in the joy of an actual loot drop from a boss that makes me yell and fist pump. Looking forward to that IK armor or Tals armor Baal drop. Or the Shako from Meph.

If you want to put on headhunter and grind splinters while you can barely see what the fuck you are doing, go ahead. I'm over it.

Sooo you going to counter on how it will slaughter poE? You have nothing again rose tinted goggles LOL and I'm the young one yo I bet you didn't even hit 95+ in d2 ROFL

ROSE TINT SO HARD

Unreal dude.

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retruber wrote:

Eh, I just don't get the outrage. The game has existed without anything like harvest for years, and people loved it then. Harvest gets added for 2 months, and people freak out when it gets removed.. why? Sure, harvest is nice, but things will just go back to how they were before, which was still fun.

Heh, they've already got you looking past the sale. Don't use their incorrect language - Harvest isn't getting removed. It's being nerfed, and probably not by enough to resolve the issues they recognized in the manifesto.

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I_NO wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

The D2R numbers will dwarf anything PoE has ever done. Dont talk to me about retention and re-playability. I dumped over 10k hours in D2:LoD. Have you seen the playing habits of players in PoE? Decent numbers at league launch dwindled to a puddle after a few weeks.

Boss Runs and dedicated loot tables (TC) have always been superior imo, to what PoE encourages, which is speed filled currency runs to buy things (or craft if you are rich)

PoE's loot sucks. Like its fucking terrible. I mean what's the best thing a boss can even drop in PoE? A maven or Awakener orb? More currency.

I will (and I will join millions) in the joy of an actual loot drop from a boss that makes me yell and fist pump. Looking forward to that IK armor or Tals armor Baal drop. Or the Shako from Meph.

If you want to put on headhunter and grind splinters while you can barely see what the fuck you are doing, go ahead. I'm over it.

Sooo you going to counter on how it will slaughter poE? You have nothing again rose tinted goggles LOL and I'm the young one yo I bet you didn't even hit 95+ in d2 ROFL

ROSE TINT SO HARD

Unreal dude.

I guess we will see wont we? Who is rose tinting which game?

PoE got 99 problems but white knights ain't one.

Are you tired of that harvest whine posts/threads too?

Real men don't need Harvest :^)