Are you tired of that harvest whine posts/threads too?

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Shaldimar wrote:

It will make them more confident in their decision because their player base is pissed?

Yeah. You know, if some game aspect became THAT important and its rebalance causes so much backlash, its a clear signal something is wrong with that thing. And it needs to be further investigated and changed. And it was. Like old vaal pact, which was used by almost any attack build, this is not normal in any way.

In my opinion, they just had to stick with completely removed harvest like it was in previous league and thats all.

eh I don't really have any skin in the game here but I think both sides have good points and yet are acting a bit silly.

I'm a casual player with a lot of hours. I make my own builds, get to white-yellow maps normally and dink around a bit before I either get tired/bored or my build sucks and I just don't feel like rolling another or farming to fix it.

In this league alone I've at least tripled my wealth in currency alone (without trading at all), never mind the goodies from Rituals. I've started to scratch the surface with Harvest but crafting (nor farming currency) is anywhere close to the top reasons I get on PoE and play

Harvest as it currently is, was a mistake from the looks of it. Yet on the other hand PoE's loot system is junk and the "crafting" system mechanics pre-harvest were a lack-luster band-aid allowing us to fix it ourselves.

Uber gear should be the end-end game, not necessary to play/get to the end game.

I feel for both sides,both have merits, yet both are ultimately in the wrong, imho.

This cluster- seems intentional, fabricating a good reason to redo or revamp the loot systems going on in PoE altogether for preparation for 4.0 /PoE2/yadayada

My opinion likely means little here, I'm casual and also if it weren't for friends I play with I'd likely be doing nothing but SSF. So take it for what it's worth.

What is the alternative?

More ego stroking? More whiny about your toaster oven not running the game?


People complaining here in such numbers showed Harvest hit on something key and important in gameplay.

The OP is right though. If so many people complain that proves harvest was OP. Mind you, I don't believe they give a damn about the game's health or anything altruistic to begin with. They just want better gear for less effort.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

They just want better gear for less effort.

This. I bet that people would be happy if GGG invent a free gear setup for everyone when you complete acts, like free sets in D3. And if they have take it away later that crowd would pe pissed for sure.

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Shaldimar wrote:

Not at all. I hope the forums and Reddit never stop complaining. It's a bullshit change and deserves to be kept in the spotlight

I guess this will just make GGG more and more confident that they did right decision. And it is.

It may be for you. I am not so sure it is for the game.

I am not sure going full Argumentum ad populum is the right way. It goes as far as actually threatening GGG that if they don't revert the change they'll lose their revenues. Pretty funny if you ask me.

It's kind of entertaining in a way, only thing that's really annoying is reddit being reddit and running the "close your eyes" joke into the ground by spamming it everywhere like a 4 year old toddler who's just learned a new word.

Just close your eyes, amirite guys hahahahahahahaha.... comedy gold.

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Shaldimar wrote:

Not at all. I hope the forums and Reddit never stop complaining. It's a bullshit change and deserves to be kept in the spotlight

The forums and reddit have never stopped complaining, so your wish has already come true.

This will just enter the cycle of whining and come back every once and a while when the horde gets tired of whining about the other emergencies that ruined POE forever.

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Nubatron wrote:

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Shaldimar wrote:

Not at all. I hope the forums and Reddit never stop complaining. It's a bullshit change and deserves to be kept in the spotlight

The forums and reddit have never stopped complaining, so your wish has already come true.

This will just enter the cycle of whining and come back every once and a while when the horde gets tired of whining about the other emergencies that ruined POE forever.

I don't actually think that it is the Harvest change that is the real, underlying problem here. It is the development philosophy that is behind it - which basically states that if you grind enough, you can have everything, and rewards go up exponentially with time investment. And the idea that the majority has to be locked out of this because... reasons.

Delirium fractured maps, Heist blueprint duping, Headhunters, OP elevated mods, ... there are a lot of things that go into the same direction.

Harvest was just a very obvious one, and exceptionally poorly communicated on top of that.