Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

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Yesterday this thread has 475 page's, today - 460....

GGG be like... this is not a democracy :)))

I hope they realize that customers (which we are) want to support the product they want, when that product does not deliver as expected, customers search for a different product that fits their needs, it's the same in any market, it doesn't happen immediately, but it happens and upfornt censorship done to manipulate the audience is just lame and offensive.

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Vandurman wrote:

Yesterday this thread has 475 page's, today - 460....

Looks like they started deleting some comments... not a good look for a company that supposedly listens to there "community"

I think there is too much deterministic behavior in mirror duping and beastcrafting.

let's be brave and say that we do not deserve that slamming mirror to a decent gear must create the same copy in 100% of time.

I think we need to add here some RNG, so that you have 50% of creating a copy or destroying the item.

What do you think?

I mean if we fight determinism in all forms - why we have it in such abusive mechanics like mirroring or beastcrafting splittting and imprinting?

And you can go even further:
1. make the points on tree give benefits that is must only in "some cases" based on RNG
2. killing a monster can kill it only in some cases, otherwise healing it to 100% hp
3. using a skill works only in 50% of cases, doing nothing otherwise.

WE NEED MORE RNG IN THIS GAME

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hidden_gobsek wrote:

I think there is too much deterministic behavior in mirror duping and beastcrafting.

let's be brave and say that we do not deserve that slamming mirror to a decent gear must create the same copy in 100% of time.

I think we need to add here some RNG, so that you have 50% of creating a copy or destroying the item.

What do you think?

I mean if we fight determinism in all forms - why we have it in such abusive mechanics like mirroring or beastcrafting splittting and imprinting?

And you can go even further:
1. make the points on tree give benefits that is must in "some cases" based on RNG
2. killing a monster can kill it only in some cases, otherwise healing it to 100% hp
3. using a skill works only in 50% of cases, doing nothing otherwise.

WE NEED MORE RNG IN THIS GAME

Also get rid of master craft, way too deterministic.

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Also get rid of master craft, way too deterministic

Wait till you see our non-deterministic 'install game' feature coming soon. 50% chance of a virus, which is in line with our views on what makes a good game.

I like harvest crafting.

Edit: My bronze kiwi likes it too.

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Okkuro wrote:

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Vandurman wrote:

Yesterday this thread has 475 page's, today - 460....

It is called censorship right...?

sure is.

people also think that GGG staff like Chris are not active or even see posts in the forum. don't kid yourselves, staff are way more active in the forums than you think. why do you think they set their profiles so private? so you can't see their last active time/date. this is common practice in forums. it's just a very poor way for GGG to handle this situation. but, i'm surprised that Tencent hasn't shown some kind of presence on the matter with the potential profit loss over GGG's stupidity.

i for one will stop playing but the main problem here will be the rest of the players that will keep playing despite being screwed over by being given something that is actually useful to a normal/average player that helps get to end-game content without being in the 1% and streamers.

I actualy think the changes are ok.

I just wish the crafts would be tradeable like Beasts.
Thats all i want.

Harvestcrafting is very good for the game but harvest itself is too powerful compared to other endgame activities, forcing you to stay in that Atlas region if you care about minmaxing your character growth.
Solution: Keep the weaker stuff at harvest and the powerful stuff will be split among less popular mechanics and have it drop in form of tradeable orbs.

Talking about profit loss and why Tencent doesn´t intervene..
Because it is aaaalways such a good outcome in the end, when companies just watch out for their profits instead of making quality content.
The people who don´t like where it´s going.. just leave and take your complainy nonsense sarcastical comments with you.

I can fully understand that some of the posts here are deleted (when this is even true, i myself didn´t see those 475 pages)
Just try to think from GGGs point of few.. or rather those of the people who pour their heart and soul into this game.. how frustrating it must be to only read "this is bad" "that sucks" "you make only mistakes" "this is wrong" "f... you" and whatever else...


Reading 200 ex in a build, not being able to kill all content.. i don´t know what to say.. not having Harvest is not the problem here.
Build diversity because of Harvest.. just look up the build diversity in Harvest league.. you might find a lot of trickster and necro.
Harvest may make bad builds work with insane gear.. but off-meta builds can still do all content without harvest.


And btw, buying Supporter does not entitle you to anything - it´s called supporter pack because you support what they do/did when you bought it.
Saying the game is part yours because of that and time invested.. is like saying your partner is yours and he/she can´t split up, because you were together for years..