Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting
" Perfect statement. By the time ANYONE who isn't part of the 1% wants to craft something, the game changes fundamentally and the item(s) are now worthless. Harvest doesn't even make it overpowered; you still have to get the crafts required for your item, AND you still have to hit the right mod and tier. Last but not least, the item will be vendor trash eventually anyway because a new base, or new mod will come out. Every league is basically this. Such simple things like rings with curses on hit change destroyed every other ring in existence prior to that, including mirrored rings. Can you imagine having mirrored rings that are now vendor trash? That is what GGG is doing to crafting. |
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" They never.....they admitted that they just copy build from the internet. Also look at the past record of QA. Quite a lot of bad game design should be spotted in alpha stage, not in the release product (despite league is always an open beta) This is the start of forum signature: I am not a GGG employee. About the username: Did you know Kowloon Gundam is made in Neo Hong Kong? quote from the first page: "Please post one thread per issue, and check the forum for similar posts first" This is the end of forum signature Last edited by neohongkong#0222 on Mar 12, 2021, 5:17:31 PM
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" Remove a random x modifier - gone Remove a random x and add x modifier - gone Reroll value of x modifier - gone augment a random x - applied only to non-influenced items except for Augment a random influence modifier that can only be applied to influenced items Remove non-x add x - still exist(not sure if it can be applied to influenced or not, but probably not) |
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" I do have a family and guess what? I skip some leagues. In most, I play casually and I accept that I will not go anywhere near a fantastic build. And you know what? It's fine! I still enjoy the game, and accept that when I cannot put in the efforts, I should not get the rewards. Occasionally, I do play seriously (at my level). I spent a few years ago dreaming about Skyforth. I spent 4+ leagues maybe trying to chance them until I got lucky and got them. And ended up selling them to finance an interesting build. So what? I didn't expect a right to get Skyforth, Headhunter, Volls every time I wanted them or needed them. And some were build enabling items. It's not as if I had the alternative of a cheaper option (I did play a couple of leagues with a Solaris Poorica though, so what!?). I never got to experience Mjolnir at its peak because it was too expensive. Should GGG have made it easier for me to get one? Why? Why did I deserve to play with Mjolnir? Because I am a paying customer? I am not a Karen, and I do not believe in the customer's right to impose their whims onto a business. When I played DAoC, I did not expect every artefact, with full xp and RR10. When I played D2, I also didn't think I had a divine right to get my Oculus (had to farm a long time for one) or whatever other insane items there were. In Star Wars Galaxy, did I think I was entitled to a lightsaber? Actually, guess what ha penned when all the customers complained that only a handful could play Jedi: they made Jedi easy, and the game nearly instantly died. What I do realise from the thread though, is that Harvest did reduce the size of the steps between upgrades, and that is indeed something very positive: allow players to have a realistic upgrade path that takes at most a week or two of farming between item upgrades. But now everyone it is no longer about upgrade paths. Everyone want a +2 wand or amulet. With life. And resist. And damage. Everyone wants an explody chest, but also with a T1 life and and and and Before, for explody stuff, you had to go impulsa, HoI, obliteration, Occultist (and maybe a few other options). But now everyone believes it is the new minimum standard and everyone is entitled to explody stuff because streamers explode a whole screen every millisecond. |
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edit: sorry I misread your post!
" This is what I'm getting at - it's not clear either way thus clarification is needed. Last edited by deathsoverture#2930 on Mar 12, 2021, 5:24:30 PM
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If Discord pooling crafts is a challenge to you GGG, deal with that directly. Do not harm the legitimate use. To many players, it could the only potential content that worth the grinding. In fact, during the two month period of the already nerfed to death version of harvest, I didn't make anything that worth a second look. I also observed a lot of player actually just don't even bother hop into the grave portal.
Making a good content is not easy but tearing down it could be like flick a pest. Do not force players to play in your way. |
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" Yep, this is what I'm trying to raise here, less about the harvest nerfs and more about their decisions as a business. How is it possible that a business fails to address issues that they constantly get reminded about? That's incompetence. Lots of gaslighting going on here too, with supposed non-harvesters/exalt printers claiming harvest makes the game too easy and a game shouldn't be easy if it is an arpg. Fact is, gambling with exalts pays off, like, never? This nerf hasn't fixed that issue. Which is why I am contesting. Last edited by HowToGusta#6151 on Mar 12, 2021, 5:35:27 PM
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" That’s an odd assumption to make. Not everyone is minimum wage working 70 hours a week. Some people have good careers. I don’t min-max. I play a character until I’m done and move on, as the game does not require min maxing to play. So these changes don’t affect me. Harvest was helpful, but unnecessary for the game. All the rage in this thread is from people with short sighted vision of game design. This is not the last change to crafting, despite the overreaction here WARNING: Do not give GGG money. Never forgive the content creator priority uncovered during 3.14 Ultimatum league.
GGG got caught giving content creators in game advantages, only when caught would they tell the player base they were doing this. This will continue, but more slyly. |
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" Lol, he's not assuming, he's explaining his circumstances in a sarcastic way. Like, the amount of time he has obviously doesn't compare to others who might be at school or have no serious responsibilities other than taking care of themselves. |
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Bring back Eternal Orbs then :)
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