Why is Taryn's Shiver considered good for Freezing Pulse?

Those are my current weapons and they are pretty good, but I have seen a lot better. Comparing the offensive stats between my weapons and an average Taryn's:

- 131% crit chance
- 135% spell damage

vs.

- 90% spell damage (if you deal all cold)
- 15% cast speed
- +1 to Cold Gems
- 20% More Damage against frozen enemies
- 8% freeze chance

The tradeoffs being I lose 45% spell damage and 131% crit chance to gain 15% cast speed, +1 to my Freezing Pulse, and a mini-shock against frozen targets when switching to Taryn's.. This is not including the life and possible resists lost from dropping a spirit shield + dagger/wand.

Note: I didn't include the additional freeze chance as a "pro" in the tradeoffs because losing 130% crit on a FP is like losing 8% chance to freeze (1.31 x 6% crit chance), except the crit will freeze even longer then the Taryn's bonus freeze.

Consider there are still better daggers/wands and spirit shields out there... and I'm not seeing how you get so much more damage out of Taryn's, especially for the price it usually sold at on Hardcore.

You're not considering how that extra speed contributes to your damage output, and more chance to crit. The +1 to your FP is great.

I think you are underestimating a few things.

The extra chance to freeze and increased damage against frozen enemies is easily better than the any extra crit on your gear. A chance to freeze is better than relying on crits since crits might kill you.

And the 15% cast speed and +1 to the gem are both a huge dps increase as well.

The main tradeoff when using Taryn's shiver is that you lose defenses.

- 20% More Damage against frozen enemies

I didn't do the calculation but it wouldn't surprise me if this is the thing that makes it so good.

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Sisaroth wrote:

- 20% More Damage against frozen enemies

I didn't do the calculation but it wouldn't surprise me if this is the thing that makes it so good.

Its not "more", its "increased". Additive, not multiplicative.

-ShaeltalCS

Also the 20% increased damage aply's to everybody attacking the frozen mob, so the entire team gets a +20%increase, it wouldent suprise me that that is why it is so good. An added frozen % + team buff is great for party's?

taryns is good because it simply has the mods for fp,its not the best for fp but it is good,especially 5l or 6l

also kripp has taryn so some ppl will simply think its the best,because he has it - which is why the price for one is hilarious

with a kaom's, you need a 2 handed for 6L..

Wands can get a higher + gem level then that Unique. I hear you can get as high as +3 on a certain gem type. I'm not really sure how affixes work and sense rares hide them it makes it even harder. http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Item_affix

The big pay off is all the stats of Taryn's Shiver help cold builds plus its a 6 slot. This can be your second 6 slot or your only 6 slot if you have Kaom's Heart.

KAOMS is BIS for chest piece.

Therefore, where else can you get another 6L item?

Answer is Taryn's shiver.

The item is not good at all compared to good 1 handers.

However, it is a MUST HAVE for kaoms.

You're welcome.