Ascendancies next league

Zerker is strong AF right now its just not the flavour atm regardless of the usage stats, its kinda the opposite of Jugg, Champ, Glad etc instead of fulfilling all your defensive requirements though it fulfils all your offensive ones instead.

on SC zerkers should be higher than they are, for HC its understandable but I still think they are viable enough as you can cut so much damage from the tree.

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jeerinho wrote:

It's not the best, but it is easily one of the stronger ones. DoT means you are dealing damage while kiting. CA builds are tankier and easier to gear too.

Wait so which is it? Meta or strongish? It's actually extremely weak without gear.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

Zerker is strong AF right now its just not the flavour atm regardless of the usage stats, its kinda the opposite of Jugg, Champ, Glad etc instead of fulfilling all your defensive requirements though it fulfils all your offensive ones instead.

on SC zerkers should be higher than they are, for HC its understandable but I still think they are viable enough as you can cut so much damage from the tree.

Problem I have with Zerker is the same as Raider. Speed, that's all he got. Warbringer is great for warcry builds but the ascendancy offering so much attack speed is not very synergistic with warcries that are meant for slower hard hitting builds. Also gain 1 rage on hit is awful for fights like Sirus. Also 1 thing Zerker is even worse than Raider is he got absolutely no defenses. Raider at least got bunch of evasion and/or dodges.

When an ultimate softcore class is extremely unpopular in softcore league, you know you're talking about Zerker. Just a trash ascendancy.

You can get damage from many ways but defense mechanics are far more limited. These days it's hard to justify going complete glass cannon. Part of reason why rangers fell out of meta.

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Moridin79 wrote:

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jeerinho wrote:

It's not the best, but it is easily one of the stronger ones. DoT means you are dealing damage while kiting. CA builds are tankier and easier to gear too.

Wait so which is it? Meta or strongish? It's actually extremely weak without gear.

No, its not. Otherwise it wouldnt be one of more popular league satrter or SSF build.
CA goes along with TR. You can use both in same build. CA is better for mapping, TR for bossing. Lots of people use 2x 6L and runs CA for mapping and TR for bosses.

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NexiieQT wrote:

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Problem I have with Zerker is the same as Raider. Speed, that's all he got. Warbringer is great for warcry builds but the ascendancy offering so much attack speed is not very synergistic with warcries that are meant for slower hard hitting builds. Also gain 1 rage on hit is awful for fights like Sirus. Also 1 thing Zerker is even worse than Raider is he got absolutely no defenses. Raider at least got bunch of evasion and/or dodges.

You wot mate? Berserk gives probably the most DMG of all ascendenicies in the game. (Champion might be better because of the impale). Speed is certainly not "all what it got".

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Aynix wrote:

No, its not. Otherwise it wouldnt be one of more popular league satrter or SSF build.
CA goes along with TR. You can use both in same build. CA is better for mapping, TR for bossing. Lots of people use 2x 6L and runs CA for mapping and TR for bosses.

No one is talking about a league starter or Toxic Rain. I'm refuting a claim that CA is a meta bossing skill. Which it obviously isn't. Try and keep up.

Its not meta "boss killing" skill. Its meta skill used for clearing for other meta boss killing skill - TR.

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Moridin79 wrote:

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jeerinho wrote:

It's not the best, but it is easily one of the stronger ones. DoT means you are dealing damage while kiting. CA builds are tankier and easier to gear too.

Wait so which is it? Meta or strongish? It's actually extremely weak without gear.

Being competitive for only one skill, yet still getting outnumbered by other classes like tricksters on that one skill, is already an indicator that adoption numbers will continue to remain low or drop in coming league if nothing is done.

If they introduce unlimited sulphite (replacing Nico with Oshabi or Adiyah), then raiders (along with deadeye) might see higher adoption automatically.

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jeerinho wrote:

If they introduce unlimited sulphite (replacing Nico with Oshabi or Adiyah), then raiders (along with deadeye) might see higher adoption automatically.

Unlimited sulphite was just event and will never be part of normal game.

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jeerinho wrote:

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Moridin79 wrote:

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jeerinho wrote:

It's not the best, but it is easily one of the stronger ones. DoT means you are dealing damage while kiting. CA builds are tankier and easier to gear too.

Wait so which is it? Meta or strongish? It's actually extremely weak without gear.

Being competitive for only one skill, yet still getting outnumbered by other classes like tricksters on that one skill, is already an indicator that adoption numbers will continue to remain low or drop in coming league if nothing is done.

The bow nerfs over time really hurt raider more than anything imo. I'd still pick it over current deadeye without hh.

If they somehow merged chase and slaughter and made a new branch I'd be very interested but they already lied about the next update to the ascendancy so, yeah....