[3.15] Saqawal's Twister | Easy/Unique Playstyle | All Content | Cheap Budget

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gabpla111 wrote:

The phantasmal might numbers are better than the staff, but you sacrifice one damage support for phantasm.

And ideally youd get a straight up 50% more dps, from hitting 50% more times from the shield/offhand

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gabpla111 wrote:

After properly calcuating the differnce with cane+Phantasmal Might and one less support (dropping Awakened Deadly Ailments in my case) I would get about 10% more DPS.
Although if the shield can provide some other good stats, hp, resists, etc, then it's better overall. But level 21 Less Duration is hard to come by as well. And getting a proper cluster with blessed rebirth is also a pain in the ass, especially now since deli is not very popular this league.
I'd say staff is better unless you get the shield with the quality, gem levels, maybe reservation efficiency. I guess it's a costly project.

Heres a link to the calculator i use for calcing the tornado proc rate
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VQGkQCYIGkZ5UfuqJZcCl2HYHoRn0NcpduERgOM67wc/edit?usp=sharing

Blessed rebirth megalomaniac isnt that hard to get two other notables atleast for the chieftain variant, as nearly anything with spell dmg, or fire damage increase, is usable, or even a tanky node like spell supp is fine, i found quite a few for 1 divine or less

For the shield, you can definitely get some other good mods on there, i have 7% all resists and 119 life on it.

are you really only getting 10% more dps with this version? i cant imagine that awak deadly ailments is giving you more than 50% more dps alone, which is what itd be upgrading from the 10.10 proc rate to the 15.15 alone, let alone the phys dmg to spells increase from black cane, could very easily be wrong though.

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gabpla111 wrote:

How do you go about crafting that shield btw? Any insight or guide on that? I'd appreciate it.:) I might give it a try later on.

Just search for a shield with the catarina base +2 levels of socketted supp gems, +Quality to gems, with an open prefix & suffix (to craft % qual to gems and aspect of avian), you are free to play with the other two suffixes and prefix for any other stats youd find useful to try to get

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gabpla111 wrote:

As for mapping: I don't know about chieftain, but I've played assassin in 3.14 (best fucking build against "stand in stone circles", if anyone remembers that thing) aaand I think occultist is just king when in comes to mapping right now. Mobs on screen just blow up as you are running forward.
Ofc Assassin was the best before the poison node nerf. I Haven't done 80-100% deli maps with my occultist, but I doubt it would be very comfy:( The old assassin nodes synergized so well that content.

yeah, profane bloom is stupid OP, unspeakable gifts was really nice as well for assassin when i could get that, chieftain has the benefit of being able to utilize an explody chest, as were already scaling some fire damage conversion, so it can clear just as well, just requires more input to get the same clear as occulty?

I checked the calculator you linked, and yea, damage is more or less the same.

That ofc is only true for my dps since I get a lot of damage from poison duration bonuses, therefor gems with more damage multipliers have a big impact on my dps. Could be very different case for chieftain and assassin.



Also, (this is just my personal experience) but 70% debuff duration might not work properly either or they hit cap on server ticks because I did one "70% debuffs expire faster mod" eater yesterday, and for the life of me I couldn't tell if my dps was any better. (the buff icons were swapping at the speed of light but the damage wasn't there. Eater also moves around a lot so there's that.)

I also bought a 75% reduced projectile speed amu (86% with anoint) and damage "increase" wasn't that noticeable either. Standing completely still during the fight made a noticeable difference but that's not really possible with most end-game bosses where this could be a big thing. For chieftain tho...It would be much better since it has no need to ramp up damage over time. So, I think this leagues reduced projectile speed amulets with 70-75% + reduced speed are worth looking into.


And thank you for the tips on shield. I will definitely try it later on.

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gabpla111 wrote:

I checked the calculator you linked, and yea, damage is more or less the same.

That ofc is only true for my dps since I get a lot of damage from poison duration bonuses, therefor gems with more damage multipliers have a big impact on my dps. Could be very different case for chieftain and assassin.



Also, (this is just my personal experience) but 70% debuff duration might not work properly either or they hit cap on server ticks because I did one "70% debuffs expire faster mod" eater yesterday, and for the life of me I couldn't tell if my dps was any better. (the buff icons were swapping at the speed of light but the damage wasn't there. Eater also moves around a lot so there's that.)

I also bought a 75% reduced projectile speed amu (86% with anoint) and damage "increase" wasn't that noticeable either. Standing completely still during the fight made a noticeable difference but that's not really possible with most end-game bosses where this could be a big thing. For chieftain tho...It would be much better since it has no need to ramp up damage over time. So, I think this leagues reduced projectile speed amulets with 70-75% + reduced speed are worth looking into.


And thank you for the tips on shield. I will definitely try it later on.

the 70% buff duration, if you are at the 15 proc rate, should do nothing. you would need to be doing an invitation, with height of hubris atlas passive to make it twice as strong, so 140% buffs expire faster. best way to tell the difference between proc rates, is if you have spark spider MTX, turn on your sound, there is a huge difference in how it sounds

Would a Replica Shroud of the Lightless with 6 of these be a good idea?

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Sealacus wrote:

Would a Replica Shroud of the Lightless with 6 of these be a good idea?

yeah, that was one of the options i believe i gave in the body armour section of the guide, its fairly good, just super expensive D:

Just a post to show my current pobs of this league (kalandra)

Non-mageblood
https://pobb.in/ZLFKaEUjtdou

Mageblood
https://pobb.in/t9YP7coHMeF5

Mageblood with timeless jewel(divine flesh)(tankier variant)
https://pobb.in/KXpt9KPdlFZx

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Niiito wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_RSeYoKZfA

yep, just saw that, he links to this guide on the bottom of his forum guide which i really appreciate!

I'm playing as Chieftain and I have two questions for you:

*I'm using Greater Volley/GMP/Anom. Phant/Incr Duration as my main link for twister. Do you think Greater Volley + GMP is overkill?

*What is your Single Target twister setup? Do you replace any additional projectile link?

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Supaspork wrote:

Just a post to show my current pobs of this league (kalandra)

Non-mageblood
https://pobb.in/ZLFKaEUjtdou

Mageblood
https://pobb.in/t9YP7coHMeF5

Mageblood with timeless jewel(divine flesh)(tankier variant)
https://pobb.in/KXpt9KPdlFZx

Do you think the new divinarius change:

https://i.imgur.com/MmS0smK.png


and the explody flask could be used for this build? I am thinking of making this twister build for my second char.

Also with the non mage blood version that you linked in this page, were you able to do simulacrum 30 with it or maybe delirium 100%?

Basiscly how did your build perform in kalandra?