Prime Example of Hacking Try
" But you make it sound like viruses ONLY comes from shady websites and emails, which is completely wrong. If your friend sends you a .doc file (which you aked for), you're also at a risc of being infected. Relying solely on your anti-virus or your intuitions is not a good practice. You cannot cover everything yourself, and your anti-virus doesn't protect against stupidity - therefore a combination is best. | |
" While I appreciate that where you are coming from is based on a valid historical basis, it's really pretty passe. Microsoft's security practice is quickly becoming quite astonishingly good. If they don't lose momentum, everyone else will be looking like amateurs in the next 10 years or so. Anyway, the most entertaining game "hack" I ever heard of involved persuading a newbie to set up one of those macro programs so that they could rapidly swap gold find gear. You'd volunteer to help them out, and send them a preconfigured script. The scripts aren't hard, but are 1% like programming, and that 1% was often beyond many players. So with that in place, you'd send them a script that through all their stuff on the ground and then made their character run in circles. You'd pick up all their stuff and log out. Hilarious. The only reason I'd ever feel bad hearing about cases like this is you know some of the people being hurt like this are like, 10. I guess they are learning important life lessons before they get credit card numbers n' stuff. --C Last edited by Courageous#0687 on Mar 29, 2013, 9:23:03 AM
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" If your friend sends you an infected doc file buddy, either you have stupid work buddies, either you have very unreliable work buddies. In that case, instead of having an anti-virus, I suggest having a portable computer and doing your work related things on this laptop. I just did a scan, with an online checker, and I has no viruses, I formatted 2 weeks or so ago. Also, using web based services like gmail for your mails is an added layer of protection. Anything that looks shady should simply not be downloaded, and you should know what's shady or not. Most email viruses come from those serial letters or internet jokes that seem to be very trendy these days (because of gullible people). If everyone employed safe internet practices from the start, we would have never needed an antivirus in the first place. Last edited by Tugzor#3729 on Mar 29, 2013, 9:33:01 AM
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" Either your hardware is crap or your AV is, if your PC gets impaired for hours at a time. I have Avast run a scan every two days and I have never noticed it have any effect on my system. Obviously, it will be consuming some resources, but the amount it does consume is so little as to not be noticeable. The only time it throws up a warning about suspicious activity is when I'm programming and keep altering the executable I'm running. And this warning should be expected as it IS suspicious behavior for a normal system. I could probably run fine without any AV at all, as if I ever have anything I'm unsure about I test it in a VM before exposing it to my system, but sometimes I do allow others to use my PC so I like to be as secure as possible. |
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" That is good internet practices. |
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"I haven't used anti virus software since 2005. Never had a virus. But i also dont pirate, download 'hacks' or do other shady things on the internet... |
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i reported a few of these in the past couple days..
that, and tons of RMT spam.. imo, these people making the map hack parties, should be perm banned, no exceptions. there is no reason why a PLAYER (not to be confused with lvl 1 spammers) should do this to fellow players another case of leading by example.. ruthlessly and endlessly go after these kinds of things and people will think twice before being a dipshit in game (and on the forums) and ruthlessly, doesnt mean a 1 hour mute or 2 hour forum probation.. sure they can make a new account, but the map hack parties i reported were lvl 30+ characters, and the OP shows a lvl79.. that whole account gone with gear/chars/currency.. making a new account isnt going to get all that stuff back very quickly Things with "increased" and "decreased" in the tooltip are additive ... where as "More" or "Less" are multiplicative ... Last edited by wade001#1394 on Mar 29, 2013, 10:26:56 AM
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" Thing is, most of these accounts are stolen in the first place, and are most often emptied of everything of value. Would be great if they just inputted a filter on all public games that silently reports any suspicious game name so they could investigate it quickly. And I originally posted this so people realize what to not go for if they have their own internet security in mind, not to start a debate about anti viruses :p I really love this game, but I'm concerned about my own security and my peers/friends' security after seeing that spammers are getting more and more aggressive (I get multiple spam PMs during a one hour session in an open game). I would also like to suggest some means of verifying someone's identity before letting that someone create an account. I would also suggest limiting the number of connections available to a single IP to 2 or 3. (finding a vpn for yourself isn't that hard of a task if you share your connection with lots of people. Imagine the task for a 100 farmers building all on the same connection though). Also, I've known someone who works in the gold farming industry (they work primarly on Wow/Rift/D3 and no I have never used any of their services), if GGG wishes I can establish contact with her again and see what would be the best ways to secure PoE against all of this. To the person that wrote about that .doc:
Spoiler
..DOC files are most often from Microsoft Word. Because of the way that Microsoft wrote Word, a person can put something called a "macro" into the document. A macro is a relatively small computer program, in a sense. Within the macro are instructions for Word to follow, just like in any other program. They can go way beyond just setting fonts, margins, indent, etc. The problem is that some of those instructions are powerful enough to cause problems with your computer. It is possible to write a macro that does virus-like things. The same thing applies to some other Microsoft programs, like the Excel spreadsheet. There are also other small programs that Windows uses that can be used to deliver a virus-like problem. The current wave of "e-mail viruses" are an example of that. I have received four viruses in the past month via e-mail. My anti-virus program, Norton, caught them all before they did any damage. If you don't have an up-to-date anti-virus package, you could be the victum of one of these without your knowledge. The reason that I received these is that a friend insists on sending all e-mailed jokes, stories, etc. in an inappropriate way. He puts the names of all the people on his e-mail list into the TO: field. That way, everyone has the e-mail of everyone else. Some of those people then forward the joke to others, using the same technique. This snowballs so that one e-mail can have dozens of e-mail addresses in it. If ANY one of the machines that received the e-mail becomes infected with an e-mail virus, the virus sends itself to EVERY e-mail address in the machine. This is NOT just the addresses that the infected machine has sent to or received from. It includes every address that is embedded in every e-mail that is in the machine. It spreads like the flu when a person sneezes in a crowded elevator. There are also a fairly high number of viruses (actually trojans, but still dangerous) posted in newsgroups. These are usually with subjects like "xxxx topless" or "xxxx nude" where xxxx is the name of a well know person. Most of these are 2-300 lines long. Since you cannot have a decent picture in under a thousand lines (in my personal opinion), these are easy to spot. They are also usually in groups where such pictures are off-topic. That is another tip off. Same as an EXE, don't run shit if you know your buddy is a dumbass with a computer. Even jokes are a luxury I don't afford on my computer. You won't get infected if you read the email, you will get infected if you open the attached file. This is also a pretty good example of if everyone followed safe surfing practices, we wouldn't have to deal with anti-viruses and the like. Last edited by Tugzor#3729 on Mar 29, 2013, 12:25:28 PM
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" Same here, at my home/game pc I don't have a AV for many years now, all software on it is genuine and I dont use hacks/cracks. But at my work pc I use Avast after I have seen microsoft security essentials fail to detect a trojan. |
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I just want to point out that Schovan's account was compromised, cleaned out, and used to spam. He's a long-time, respected player, one of the first ever on my friends list from the very beginning of closed beta.
Let this be a warning to all players: use a unique, secure password for your account and a different unique, secure password for your email. Don't let this happen to you. Closed Beta/Alpha Tester back after a 10-year hiatus.
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