General Discussion - PSA: Heist isn't timer based...it's a loot gate. - Forum

" Exile009 wrote: " vio wrote: i'm exited how they will solve the resulting xp problem: since those guards keep respawning they can't give xp. which makes it useless to fight them in the first place, just put phase run on lmb and leave as fast as you can. which punishes slow moving builds cause they have to waste time fighting for no xp. a arpg should reward you for fighting mobs. There are previous mechanics that had endless swarms of enemies. Elreon's old missions, for instance. In all cases, you do get xp and loot for killing the 'normal' amount of enemies, but after a point if you're just camping around killing the respawns forever then the new mobs no longer grant anything. But normal play isn't penalized, only exploitative use of the mechanic. sure thing, but this seems different since monsters get harder over time (i guess). maybe we even have to fight bosses after the heist (it only makes sense there). it would be a mix of getting xp and getting no xp. age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!	Posted by vio#1992 on Sep 2, 2020, 11:59:57 AM Alpha Member Quote this Post
Loosing the loot that you looted during the Heist and is on ur inventory is a freaking retarded idea. I already read to many complains about this	Posted by Exotrax#6666 on Sep 3, 2020, 8:50:30 AM Quote this Post
" Exotrax wrote: Loosing the loot that you looted during the Heist and is on ur inventory is a freaking retarded idea. I already read to many complains about this It's not retarded. Bad? Well, that's up for discussion. But losing your loot when you die, isn't retarded. It's been done in thousands of games before. Hell, even Diablo 2 did that. Sure, you could pick it up again, bud you did lose it. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.	Posted by Phrazz#3529 on Sep 3, 2020, 8:53:16 AM Quote this Post
" Exotrax wrote: Loosing the loot that you looted during the Heist and is on ur inventory is a freaking retarded idea. I already read to many complains about this You're stealing their stuff. Why would they successfully stop you, and then not take their stuff back? Hell, they should take all your stuff and make you come back to get it :) Thanks for all the fish!	Posted by Nubatron#4333 on Sep 3, 2020, 9:00:15 AM Quote this Post
" DarthSki44 wrote: Admittedly there is a decent amount of vague and coded language. Why would you have to "hurry up" and grab the artifact if/when you set off the alarm? Obviously there is some sort of time gated mechanic, but it's not entirely clear how much, or even why. This has already been asked and answered. Once you set off the alarms, you have a timer to grab loot. It sounds like the lockdown makes all remaining special loot that's on the ground (artifacts or whatever) disappear once the timer is up. Then you have an infinite time to escape.	Posted by codetaku#0468 on Sep 3, 2020, 9:39:53 AM On Probation Quote this Post
You can still pick up the contraband on the floor, you just can't open more chests (including the goal) after the alarm timer ends. Last edited by _bk#7943 on Sep 3, 2020, 9:51:47 AM	Posted by _bk#7943 on Sep 3, 2020, 9:50:48 AM Quote this Post
" codetaku wrote: " DarthSki44 wrote: Admittedly there is a decent amount of vague and coded language. Why would you have to "hurry up" and grab the artifact if/when you set off the alarm? Obviously there is some sort of time gated mechanic, but it's not entirely clear how much, or even why. This has already been asked and answered. Once you set off the alarms, you have a timer to grab loot. It sounds like the lockdown makes all remaining special loot that's on the ground (artifacts or whatever) disappear once the timer is up. Then you have an infinite time to escape. In fairness it wasnt asked and answered officially when I made that post. Still, its timed, so my point remains. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln	Posted by DarthSki44#6905 on Sep 3, 2020, 9:57:17 AM On Probation Quote this Post
" vio wrote: sure thing, but this seems different since monsters get harder over time (i guess). maybe we even have to fight bosses after the heist (it only makes sense there). it would be a mix of getting xp and getting no xp. As long as the monsters keep getting harder they ought to give exp. I think it will be a great source of rips if this is the case. I hope for the sweet sweet irony of lvl 99 streamers taking a risk for that small little bit of exp and then losing 10% (or their char life) b/c of their greed.	Posted by innervation#4093 on Sep 3, 2020, 10:03:30 AM Quote this Post
As long as I can play in a stealthy way to change the pace of regular play I will be more than happy. Rushing through maps is tiring and gets kind of dull. So an opportunity to play a different way would be nice. GGG should be applauded for trying something different. At first I was dismissive of Heist but now I'm look forward to have a go. Just as long as my PS4 doesn't crash during a heist...	Posted by AbilityPoints#9049 on Sep 3, 2020, 10:11:50 AM Quote this Post
Too bad there is not a sneak stat in the game Need more brains, exile?	Posted by MasterTBC#4984 on Sep 3, 2020, 11:02:44 AM Quote this Post