Can we get a summary of Chris's commentary from 7/18/2020?

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TreeOfDead wrote:

i hope to see way WAY more QOL thing in poe2 and change lot of mechanic from poe1 to slow down speed and speedrunners acts as they must be important but not 2-3 hours and instantly endgame as now

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VolcanoElixir wrote:

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Like having a conversation on removal or at least limiting older content and having beyond come up. I think personally that Delerium was built as a replacement for Beyond. They both function as basically a multiplier for other content (like old school "multiball" in pinball). However Delerium is more fleshed out and brings more interesting mechanics to the game with it with clusters and an endgame style showdown map. I felt this was pretty confirmed by the aside that Delerium mobs were originally slated to possibly update the generic "red" mobs of Beyond, but just speculation on my end.

Of course, folks are still going to WANT both versions of multiball going at once, and it is also likely that "Beyond going away" just means it will be limited to say, specific maps (akin to Sunthesis), not completely removed.

Delirium has a timer, Beyond does not. This has a huge impact on how the content is played and what builds are suited for it, as well as making picking up loot and doing other mechanics much harder to do.

Basically what this means is that Beyond is getting replaced by a strictly inferior version of itself.

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KalAthar wrote:

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VolcanoElixir wrote:

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Like having a conversation on removal or at least limiting older content and having beyond come up. I think personally that Delerium was built as a replacement for Beyond. They both function as basically a multiplier for other content (like old school "multiball" in pinball). However Delerium is more fleshed out and brings more interesting mechanics to the game with it with clusters and an endgame style showdown map. I felt this was pretty confirmed by the aside that Delerium mobs were originally slated to possibly update the generic "red" mobs of Beyond, but just speculation on my end.

Of course, folks are still going to WANT both versions of multiball going at once, and it is also likely that "Beyond going away" just means it will be limited to say, specific maps (akin to Sunthesis), not completely removed.

Delirium has a timer, Beyond does not. This has a huge impact on how the content is played and what builds are suited for it, as well as making picking up loot and doing other mechanics much harder to do.

Basically what this means is that Beyond is getting replaced by a strictly inferior version of itself.

The meat of Delerium content does not have a timer but instead has a currency cost. It is in my opinion, entirely superior to Beyond in both implementation and reward, feel free to disagree with my opinion though, can't please everyone.

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jbabel1012 wrote:

And Chris doubled down saying it is going to solve most of the issues people have with PoE and it is going to be the best ArPG on the market.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Chris is always hyping the next league. That's his job.

As for solving all the problems... I doubt that's possible. People have contradictory "problems". Some say there's too much RNG, others say not enough. Some say there's too much division between the haves and the have nots, others think that's what makes the game great. You can't solve one person's problems without creating problems for someone else.

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frostzor27 wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Chris is always hyping the next league. That's his job.

As for solving all the problems... I doubt that's possible. People have contradictory "problems". Some say there's too much RNG, others say not enough. Some say there's too much division between the haves and the have nots, others think that's what makes the game great. You can't solve one person's problems without creating problems for someone else.

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You can't please everybody, so you must try to please the maximum people possible. What is wrong is assume we know who are those "silent majority" based on some vocal forum posters. Only GGG has the data so all we can do is presume.

By the leagues I played since I started PoE I can see by the "vocal minority" that leagues with loot explosions were more appreciated: Delve, Metamorph, Delirium. Craft leagues were hated: Bestiary, Shitesys (yeah I really hate that one) and now Harvest. The minigame leagues were so so: Blight, Betrayal.

Yet all (aside Shitesys) in the end made it to core game. Much to my personal distaste even Delirium went core. Based on this we can see that GGG sees public for every kind of content.

There's only one thing that seens to be hated across all these content: RNG. That's a separate matter I will not discuss now.

Harvest MUST go core, the deterministic craft system is a very good idea and need further improvements not a complete scrap from the game. The garden could be simplified like an immutable pre-made garden for every type/tier of seeds, including upgradable storages (like sulphite tank), really working dispersers, upgradable horticraft stations, etc. The most op crafts like criticals could have a rarer chance, and the chance of T1 affixes via craft made rarer, a lot of stuff, but the game need Harvest. Hope the "silent majority", GGG and Chris saw this.

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Tolerantzdestr0yer wrote:

the only way i can see harvest going core would be in a beastiary way were its gutted "beyond recognition"

I love the idea of do this-> get this, deterministically crafting or doing things at all should outweight RNG by farrrrrrrrrrrrr
90 to 10, I dont know who could ever ask seriously for more RNG and is not hired by blizzard to support the downfall of this game