What's the deal with Mirrioring Service?

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geffreyy wrote:

The person wanting to take the service is losing a Mirror(worth approximately 35 exalt) and in return gaining a mirrored item. Why is there an outrageous service charge? Usually around 1 Exalt.

The service provider is basically getting 1 Exalt and losing nothing,

Even if the item were worth 36 exalt (doubtful), why would you give someone a free exalt?

Just sell the mirror...buy something for 15 exalts that's better, stash the other 20.

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Biovital wrote:

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geffreyy wrote:

The person wanting to take the service is losing a Mirror(worth approximately 35 exalt) and in return gaining a mirrored item. Why is there an outrageous service charge? Usually around 1 Exalt.

The service provider is basically getting 1 Exalt and losing nothing,

Even if the item were worth 36 exalt (doubtful), why would you give someone a free exalt?

Just sell the mirror...buy something for 15 exalts that's better, stash the other 20.

except the whole purpose of a mirror service to mirror the BEST or close to the best item.

good luck buying a best 6 linked chest piece for 15 exalt.



I think people fail to understand the sheer cost in crafting an item that is actually mirror worthy.

why would that person not use that item as a way to recoup some of those costs.

the reason some of these people in this thread are giving to not spend an exalt is ridiculous ... you may as well never spend any currency ever if you are worried about someone using that currency to bid against you.

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I think people fail to understand the sheer cost in crafting an item that is actually mirror worthy.

why would that person not use that item as a way to recoup some of those costs.

the reason some of these people in this thread are giving to not spend an exalt is ridiculous ... you may as well never spend any currency ever if you are worried about someone using that currency to bid against you.

The decision to craft the item was a lucid decision. Nobody forced the person to craft it. In return he is enjoying the benefits of a good item. An exchange has taken place.

In a mirror service "exchange" the service receiver spends 36 Exalt worth to receive a Mirrored item. An exchange has taken place. (A mirriored item which cannot be changed mind you, so if you want to change socket colors sometime in the future, too bad for you)

The mirror service provider loses nothing and in return gains 1 exalt. This is not an exchange.

36 Exalts is not a small amount of currency. That is 1260 Fusings.

OP has absolutely no concept of a service having value.

"The owner of the item loses nothing" is a flat logical fallacy because it posits that the seller has to give something up at the time of mirroring in order for there to be an exchange of value.

Aside from taking all of the time to chrom the item TO and BACK FROM the buyer's preferred choice of socketing, there's the initial investment the seller made in getting that amazing item.

Just 'cause they put in the work before the mirror was possible doesn't mean that work brings no value to the table at the time of mirroring.

Edit: This is so unbelievably obtuse that I call troll.

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thepmrc wrote:

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geffreyy wrote:

The person wanting to take the service is losing a Mirror(worth approximately 35 exalt) and in return gaining a mirrored item. Why is there an outrageous service charge? Usually around 1 Exalt.

The service provider is basically getting 1 Exalt and losing nothing,

Even if the item were worth 36 exalt (doubtful), why would you give someone a free exalt?

The value of their GODLY 6L item goes down every time it is mirrored.

It's "one-of-a-kind"-ness goes down, sure. But it's value as a cash cow goes up. More people out there advertising your gear and mirroring service. ;)
You can't mirror mirrored items, so if other people want in on the action they have to come to you as well.

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Synidaeum wrote:

"The owner of the item loses nothing" is a flat logical fallacy because it posits that the seller has to give something up at the time of mirroring in order for there to be an exchange of value.

You took my words out of context "The service provider is basically getting 1 Exalt and losing nothing." My point is he is getting a free exalt, I'm not suggesting the seller has to give something up.

In retrospect, he is not getting a free exalt, but instead is getting an exalt for the time taken to to chrom the item. Which brings me to my next point.

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Synidaeum wrote:

Aside from taking all of the time to chrom the item TO and BACK FROM the buyer's preferred choice of socketing, there's the initial investment the seller made in getting that amazing item.

Is that period of time taken to chrom the item (assuming all chroms provided by service renderer) equal to the value of an Exalt?

Let me put it this way, someone tells you: "Hey I have this item, I'll give you these chroms to change it's color to one arrangement and then back to this arrangement" in return for this service (this is the only service being provided) I will give you 1 Exalted orb. Would you do it?

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Synidaeum wrote:

Just 'cause they put in the work before the mirror was possible doesn't mean that work brings no value to the table at the time of mirroring.

You are suggesting that the time and work taken to craft the item did not return any value for the crafter. The crafter is not enjoying the benefits of using the crafted item?

OPs post makes no sense at all. Would you expect them to mirror their item for free?

Btw, when i finally roll a 600+ es titanium spirit shield with 60+ spell damage and 100+ spell crit in hc, im going to charge 10 exalts to mirror it. Im greedy that way.

Double Post FTW

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geffreyy wrote:

You are suggesting that the time and work taken to craft the item did not return any value for the crafter. The crafter is not enjoying the benefits of using the crafted item?

And you're suggesting that because the owner is enjoying the benefits of using the item, he has no right to ask for any more than that and should let people mirror it for free.

To be completely honest, I would do that. But my personal choices don't mean mirror services are wrong in any sense; if someone has something that you want, and you're willing to pay what they ask for it, that's called a free market.

If you disagree with it, well, the best way to combat it is to craft a godly item and start letting anyone mirror it for free. I get your point, but you're clearly coming from a disadvantaged position in this argument; the people with the mirror-worthy items make the rules here. Until you have one, you're just going to appear self-entitled.

I honestly don't even understand why im still reading this thread.



I don't have a a mirror worthy item nor do I have a mirror.



But as a service adviser in the automotive industry all I can think of to say is what runs through my head every time someone starts bitching about the price of a technicians time.

"if you don't like the cost don't come here"

and yet I see those same people every 3 months come in for servicing and then continue to bitch.