Slam skills dps, where is it?

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yamface wrote:

Mate you don't need to recall what chris says anymore about that. Check out that block you quoted it's not a lie. There's literally only 13% of steam players that hits lv70. It's official. This is why poe ninja shows a more accurate representation of endgame than most people think. Because most people are comparing poe ninja to the release player peak when in reality most of these players don't even make it to relevance.

At the end of the day, endgame players might be a small group of total players but their value is much higher than anyone else. There's good reason why most of the dev/balancing efforts are targeted to endgame players and not to the random joes that play the game for a couple hours and quit.

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yamface wrote:

Most streamers hit lv100. You should be close to lv95 just from collecting all of the watchstones.

Anyway the math behind why poe ninja represents more than you expect was already written.

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yamface wrote:

- All 3 of those guys have characters above lv70 so yes they are endgame players.
- If you end up at lv93 after finishing watchstones that means you died. A lot. I do this every league in ssfhc, you should be close to lv95 by the time you're done.
- Your doubts were already factored in the math.

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yamface wrote:

I watched ziz die AT LEAST 4 times this league, and that's just what I personally witnessed. He's racking up watchstones as he's ripping. Also this is probably the worst hc streamer you could possibly reference, as ziz is hands down the most prone to dying to stupid shit all the time.

Saying that a stand alone client player is more dedicated is just a random guess you tossed out.

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kuciol wrote:

Dude he dies like 4-5 times for whole league but it still does reinforce my point, nobody does that on 1 character. Its not really a random guess, its just logical. If you dont like the game you just unistall and bye but if you care enough to download stand alone client you certainly plan to stay for longer. It wouldnt be unreasonable to say that 80% of stand alone client players hit maps but only GGG know true numbers. My guess is just as good if not better then yours.

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yamface wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOKJCPpI6n0

His 4th rip as of week 3. This guy is not at the calibur you think he's at. If you wanted to reference top hc streamers, I normally think of alkeizer, waggle, steelmage, dirtydan, etc. The rips that happen to these guys are either dc's or they're doing some truly fucked up content. Ziz dies to stupid shit like what you just saw in that vid. Don't get me wrong, ziz is good, but he's not like... giga top class level.

If you're not ripping like ziz is, you should be close to 95 by the time you're done with the watchstones.

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kuciol wrote:

I dont care what you think of him, point still stands. Nobody does that on 1 char, even those you mentioned. Also he legit got one-shoted in this clip, the previous death was to invisible something, before that he was reading chat. Maybe some of his deaths are stupid but he dies only a few times for the whole league so i dont know what you are trying to prove here. Nobody cares for HC anyway, even less for SSFHC, its for masochists and player numbers reflect that.