If you are not using a META build, you can't play endgame AT ALL

Im doing fine on a berserker. you could just try to improve at the game instead of ranting here
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ryuukk33 wrote:
This is starting to become a real ISSUE!

If you are not summoner or saboteur, you'll never be able to handle red maps and end game

GGG balance moto is to focus on META shifts

So if you are like me and like to play something different, you'll have a hard time killing stuff in Metamorph

I tried dual void battery freezing pulse, my tooltip shows 400k DPS when i have all 9 power charges, good for mapping, but for boss damage is a JOKE, he one or 3 shot me

For metamorph? LOL, you better no do them at all

Before that i experimented a little bit with winter orb, let me tell you one thing, don't bother trying to waste your time playing a build you enjoy

you'll be better following the META shifts, or you'l be poor the whole league



Don't listen to this person.
100% wrong.
Can you suggest me bladestorm or preforate awakener 8 killer builds pls? Around 3 ex budget. I would like to play theese skills on SSF with my SkulkLifeChallenger char. I've tried it but I failed. (sarcasm)
Last edited by SkulkLife#4142 on Jan 27, 2020, 9:58:31 AM
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Gulch wrote:
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ryuukk33 wrote:
This is starting to become a real ISSUE!

If you are not summoner or saboteur, you'll never be able to handle red maps and end game

GGG balance moto is to focus on META shifts

So if you are like me and like to play something different, you'll have a hard time killing stuff in Metamorph

I tried dual void battery freezing pulse, my tooltip shows 400k DPS when i have all 9 power charges, good for mapping, but for boss damage is a JOKE, he one or 3 shot me

For metamorph? LOL, you better no do them at all

Before that i experimented a little bit with winter orb, let me tell you one thing, don't bother trying to waste your time playing a build you enjoy

you'll be better following the META shifts, or you'l be poor the whole league



Don't listen to this person.
100% wrong.



Why? He is 100% correct. If u choose a "meta" build u can farm currency FAR more efficient than any non meta and ofcorse will die a lot less cause its easier to scale both defense and offence (no need to choose between one or another...). The shift part is true too look at past leagues. If any people shoudnt listen to u that didnt gave any feedback and attacked the op without making any point. True knight behavior, holy white knight I salute u.
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Gulch wrote:
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ryuukk33 wrote:
This is starting to become a real ISSUE!

If you are not summoner or saboteur, you'll never be able to handle red maps and end game

GGG balance moto is to focus on META shifts

So if you are like me and like to play something different, you'll have a hard time killing stuff in Metamorph

I tried dual void battery freezing pulse, my tooltip shows 400k DPS when i have all 9 power charges, good for mapping, but for boss damage is a JOKE, he one or 3 shot me

For metamorph? LOL, you better no do them at all

Before that i experimented a little bit with winter orb, let me tell you one thing, don't bother trying to waste your time playing a build you enjoy

you'll be better following the META shifts, or you'l be poor the whole league



Don't listen to this person.
100% wrong.



Why? He is 100% correct. If u choose a "meta" build u can farm currency FAR more efficient than any non meta and ofcorse will die a lot less cause its easier to scale both defense and offence (no need to choose between one or another...). The shift part is true too look at past leagues. If any people shoudnt listen to u that didnt gave any feedback and attacked the op without making any point. True knight behavior, holy white knight I salute u.
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soulnote77 wrote:

Learn to build TANKY and survival. There are so many builds, go juggernaut with a shield and a facebraker with cyclone build, go duelist with life leech, check alkaizerx profile and try what he is doing even with half the gear, his HP are usually at 7/8k.

Every build that lets you at 5hp will get oneshotted without any window to react. Get tankier. Its not that hard.


Do we play the same game? Its very hard, at some point you trade 1,5k life for 50% damage(going from 150% increased life to 220%), is that worth it for hard content like metamorphs?

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pifpep wrote:
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soulnote77 wrote:

Learn to build TANKY and survival. There are so many builds, go juggernaut with a shield and a facebraker with cyclone build, go duelist with life leech, check alkaizerx profile and try what he is doing even with half the gear, his HP are usually at 7/8k.

Every build that lets you at 5hp will get oneshotted without any window to react. Get tankier. Its not that hard.


Do we play the same game? Its very hard, at some point you trade 1,5k life for 50% damage(going from 150% increased life to 220%), is that worth it for hard content like metamorphs?



Yes it's worth , u kill slower but atleast u cant get 1 shoot and then complain how PoE mechanics are bad.
Start playing in 3.9!
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IHellBoundI wrote:
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Gulch wrote:



Don't listen to this person.
100% wrong.



Why? He is 100% correct. If u choose a "meta" build u can farm currency FAR more efficient than any non meta and ofcorse will die a lot less cause its easier to scale both defense and offence (no need to choose between one or another...). The shift part is true too look at past leagues. If any people shoudnt listen to u that didnt gave any feedback and attacked the op without making any point. True knight behavior, holy white knight I salute u.


Ok, so the OP could not answer this simple question. I guess you can:

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Name me just one game of this type where you can play any build you like and reach the final stages of the game. Just one, name only one...


Cause, you can, right?
Bethesda is known for having good ideas and terrible realization of them. GGG is a Bethesda subsidiary or what?
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IHellBoundI wrote:
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Gulch wrote:
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ryuukk33 wrote:
This is starting to become a real ISSUE!

If you are not summoner or saboteur, you'll never be able to handle red maps and end game

GGG balance moto is to focus on META shifts

So if you are like me and like to play something different, you'll have a hard time killing stuff in Metamorph

I tried dual void battery freezing pulse, my tooltip shows 400k DPS when i have all 9 power charges, good for mapping, but for boss damage is a JOKE, he one or 3 shot me

For metamorph? LOL, you better no do them at all

Before that i experimented a little bit with winter orb, let me tell you one thing, don't bother trying to waste your time playing a build you enjoy

you'll be better following the META shifts, or you'l be poor the whole league



Don't listen to this person.
100% wrong.



Why? He is 100% correct. If u choose a "meta" build u can farm currency FAR more efficient than any non meta and ofcorse will die a lot less cause its easier to scale both defense and offence (no need to choose between one or another...). The shift part is true too look at past leagues. If any people shoudnt listen to u that didnt gave any feedback and attacked the op without making any point. True knight behavior, holy white knight I salute u.


OP isn't talking about efficient currency farming though.

He said without a meta build you won't be able to handle red maps and end game content. That's an entirely different statement.

It's true that a summoner can do stuff on 1 ex budget where other builds need 10 or more ex to do the same thing, so if you want to be as efficient as possible, yeah then summoner is best. But for like 6-10 EX there already is a hell of a lot of builds that can safely do all content in the game. Double that and pretty much any skill/build can do it. And in terms of clear speed and survivability some of them actually beat a summoner. You can only go so fast when you have to hide behind your dumb as fuck minions all the time.




It's true that a summoner can do stuff on 1 ex budget where other builds need 10 or more ex to do the same thing, so if you want to be as efficient as possible, yeah then summoner is best. But for like 6-10 EX there already is a hell of a lot of builds that can safely do all content in the game. Double that and pretty much any skill/build can do it. And in terms of clear speed and survivability some of them actually beat a summoner. You can only go so fast when you have to hide behind your dumb as fuck minions all the time.[/quote]

True. The op exagerated. Well he still have a good point and the diference between "good" and "bad" skills became too much on this patch.
Last edited by IHellBoundI#4693 on Jan 27, 2020, 10:24:37 AM

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