synth map boss: wut?

Synth bosses are strange they feel like they belong to a different game. Some of them have a lot of skills and yes they are a dps check for sure.

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666lol666 wrote:

Synth bosses are strange they feel like they belong to a different game. Some of them have a lot of skills and yes they are a dps check for sure.

The DPS check isn't the problem. In fact, it's perfectly fine. And they don't have that many skills, it's easy enough to learn the fights mechanically.

The problem is when content becomes, as explained above, kill them in <10s or get insta-killed. (A synth boss with no damage multipliers is actually fun to fight, even better with low-mid DPS so you can actually experience the encounter)

It's not fun content, and it's certainly not 'challenging' when you die the second they look your way. Because they have 300% damage and 8 other silly multiplier buffs.

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This also applies to delve, again, as explained above. After about 1.2k 99% of builds are literally unusable. that in itself goes against the game dynamics, so why have they made it that way?

I got 3 synth bosses and one Cortex from Zana this league.

The first one came way to early for my build (when I was still using a tabula) and it wasn't going well. The 2nd and 3rd bosses were pretty easy then.

The Cortex on the other hand was the worst kind of bullshit I had the misfortune to experience in this league. The mobs leading up to the boss fight were already so strong that they killed off all my minions including spectres and the animated guardian (and those easily survived all other fights, before and after).
The boss fight itself was more or less the same as it was in the league except that I had significantly less EHP with my Summoner than I had with my ED/Bane Occultist and my minions were killed off faster than I could recast them. Needless to say, that didn't end with a victory.

Of all the things they could bring back from Synth league they chose the worst and didn't even bother to rebalance it properly. Great job...

These fights are truly awful, the worst thing about Synthesis and should not have been brought to the core game.

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Fruz wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

what am i supposed to do? Im was on a cyclone, every time i got in cyclone distance of the boss he did a massive ground slam, and theres nowhere i can go elsewhere out of it that isnt area denied, and im probably in area denial while fighting him.

Yet if you listen to the GGG faboys around here, melee characters are better for bossing !




.... riiiiiight


I think I fought that golem thindy during Synthesis and somehow managed to get him down in HC, but definitely was not a t16, and the mods mist not have been too bad.

I was offered a Zana mission with it with some nasty mods and this league I just decided to not run it, I guess this was the right choice lol.

Thanks for proving once more that you have absolutely no reading comprehension and game knowledge. If you had actually fought that boss in a Tier 16 map or alternatively read the quoted passage properly you would know that this boss is full area denial. By the time he gets to 50% life there is literally no save place left to stand in the arena. It's like fighting Uber elder for 5 minutes without killing any adds. Only way to beat that boss is to burst him down with dps which, as mentioned, requires single target damage of several millions.

You should honestly just keep quiet if you don't know what you're talking about it's embarrassing to read.

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Baharoth15 wrote:

Thanks for proving once more that you have absolutely no reading comprehension and game knowledge. If you had actually fought that boss in a Tier 16 map or alternatively read the quoted passage properly you would know that this boss is full area denial. By the time he gets to 50% life there is literally no save place left to stand in the arena. It's like fighting Uber elder for 5 minutes without killing any adds.

Fruzz is right in this case melee is shit against those bosses. You are way better of with bows, spells or mines. Because those are safer from.a distance and can achieve way more dps with way less investment than melee builds.

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zzang wrote:

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Baharoth15 wrote:

Thanks for proving once more that you have absolutely no reading comprehension and game knowledge. If you had actually fought that boss in a Tier 16 map or alternatively read the quoted passage properly you would know that this boss is full area denial. By the time he gets to 50% life there is literally no save place left to stand in the arena. It's like fighting Uber elder for 5 minutes without killing any adds.

Fruzz is right in this case melee is shit against those bosses. You are way better of with bows, spells or mines. Because those are safer from.a distance and can achieve way more dps with way less investment than melee builds.

Read again, "full area denial" actually means full area. So no matter where you're standing you take the damage. So you do not have any advantage as a ranged char simply because you attack from a distance. If you have 4 million dps on a well geared molten strike char and "only" 2 million on a mediocre geared tornado shot char then the ms char is twice as good at the fight because it's a pure dps check!

Full denial is exagerated. Have you played the boss that i have linked?

Its full area denial for melee because you cant come close to the boss without risking getting one shot. But if you are at the otherside of the screen with bows, spells or mines its a lot easier to dodge balls and the other stuff.

And when we are at it where you take my full mirrored Gladiator with standard gear for molten strike as example. If you put the same investment into bow you reach 50 times my dps. Proof: check delve ladder in blight.

God I miss synthesis so much...
Being able to defeat every boss with my offhand while my mainhand is broken and selling all challenges to people like you was so satisfying..
I want synthesis back!

you wouldnt sell anything to me, if i was in the league and wanted it done i would just make a broken character that less than 0.01% of the leagues population could even afford and nuke them.

that wouldnt mean the encounters were balanced, that wouldnt change my opinion on them.

I was in standard league when I came across this thing. I probably had 15 chars in the mid 90s with full free respecs, Ive got legacy acuity, legacy kaoms, a rack of 6 or 7 near perfect mirrored attack weapons, I could just throw together a build with 10k life, 10 million dps and oldschool instant life leech.


I dont make a thread like this because i can or cant do something from a personal perspective. I make a thread like this because I think from a detached overview of the game something is out of tune. do you think I care about the vendor trash ring it drops? theres a reason i went into the fight with an average non crit melee build and kept going back in with it. Ive been doing uber elder with the same build, why? why would someone who can throw together a build that has literally 20x as much damage + instant leech at the drop of a hat be using such a comparatively underpowered character for the fight?

because ive not really bothered with uber elder much and I want to understand how the fight plays against an average build that has to actually play the fight so that i can understand where aspects of the game are at in terms of balance of the fight, balance of melee, balance of non crit etc. Thats the only way you can form opinions on the game that have any meaning.


if I walk in there with mirrored gear and instantly delete a boss what does that tell me? that mirrored gear is severely unbalanced? thats something i already learned first hand over 4 years ago. A naked summoner goes in there and deletes uber elder... ok, so summoners are stupidly overpowered right now. I think we already got that memo, those threads have already been made.