labyrinth is piece of shit i have ever seen in all games i have ever played.

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VolcanoElixir wrote:

For the record, I did want to go into specifics but I felt that the responses would ignore the general point I was trying to make that just because something conceptually belongs in the game doesn't mean that it is by default something well done. This was definitely a mistake on my part.

But I think I can better clarify, the labyrinth's level hazards and puzzles are absolutely something that belongs in an RPG, but do I think they're implemented well? No, I genuinely think they designed the traps around the trials you find but couldn't really think of how to escalate the difficulty from there so there are trap layouts that are cluttered with damage hitboxes.

They did add actual difficulty progression where Normal and Cruel lab slowly introduce features and only Uber Labyrinth's traps are really a problem since that is the only difficulty where you actually have to really deal with them- however they never really actually improved the hazard level design itself. It kind of felt like they gave up there and just minimized how often you have to encounter the traps throughout a character's life span.

Anyway, yes, I probably moved the goal posts there by saying "traps" instead of "labyrinth" as the main thing I don't consider being well done despite being conceptually suited to an RPG, but honestly, traps are basically what the Labyrinth is. Without that it is just a very long dungeon with a multi-phase boss. Dangerous moving objects are the Labyrinth's identity to me.

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cxfcxf1983 wrote:

the reason i posted here was because this is where you give feedback, and for the sake of my 20 bucks, i do feel i m obligated to give some feedbacks, not that i really care about 20 bucks. i occasionally check back this post is just for fun.

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brushmonkey wrote:

I never die to lab any more, I've been playing long enough that my knowledge makes it trivial, aside from the occasional underlevelled, undergeared uber izaro... But I only run the bare minimum to get the 8 ascendancy points for each character, because I hate it. Its a chore that needs doing. I don't even dislike the idea of traps, if they popped up more in regular content I'd be quite happy with it.

Lab is the toilet cleaning chore of PoE. some people might like cleaning toilets, and thats fine, but to suggest that someone's opinion is invalid because they don't know how to clean a toilet in the middle of a game is the comment of a moron.

"just learn to clean toilets, noob" like that makes it a lovely rewarding experience.... succeeding at a horrible thing isn't the kind of design that belongs in a game.

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I quite like the idea of traps, would not say no to them in the rest of the game, its the lab that feels bad.

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DunklerKoenig wrote:

how is it even possible to die by traps in the first lab... I would like to see you run the Uber Lab ^^

dont make anyone responsible for you being bad at this game

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The_Impeacher wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

I really would rather clean the toilet than do labyrinth.

I'd rather clean the toilet with my tongue than do labyrinth. :D