League's unique items economy, as always, broken as f*

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crunkatog wrote:
Recall that until 3.8.1d patch, a couple people in global 820 were offering blighted map mirror services

Mirror. Services. For a map

With drop rates this low, it's going to be a while before golden oils become available in sub-1ex quantity.

A clan mate ran a couple pubby shares of blighted white maps. While you could say the subpar yield is because they weren't red maps, even for a white map the loot was subpar.

Blighted map drop rate needs to go up AND blight rewards should be scaled properly to number of lanes/tier.

I get they don't want random casuals to have Tribal Fury or Soul of Steel. But at the current pace, it's apparent nobody wants to use oils because they are the new mirrors.

When blight goes core (and it probably will), this will become absurd. As it is, even with Sister Mary Cordyceps showing up in every zone, you can't beg, borrow, or steal a blighted map.


You'd have to be some kind of stupid to take someone up on heir blighted map mirror service, regardless of patch timing.
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Its because everyone wants 2 golden oils due to Whispers of Doom. I think GGG needs to adjust offensive curses after this league and take a second look at curse effect and probably reduce it.
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Nephalim wrote:
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crunkatog wrote:
Recall that until 3.8.1d patch, a couple people in global 820 were offering blighted map mirror services

Mirror. Services. For a map

With drop rates this low, it's going to be a while before golden oils become available in sub-1ex quantity.

A clan mate ran a couple pubby shares of blighted white maps. While you could say the subpar yield is because they weren't red maps, even for a white map the loot was subpar.

Blighted map drop rate needs to go up AND blight rewards should be scaled properly to number of lanes/tier.

I get they don't want random casuals to have Tribal Fury or Soul of Steel. But at the current pace, it's apparent nobody wants to use oils because they are the new mirrors.

When blight goes core (and it probably will), this will become absurd. As it is, even with Sister Mary Cordyceps showing up in every zone, you can't beg, borrow, or steal a blighted map.


You'd have to be some kind of stupid to take someone up on heir blighted map mirror service, regardless of patch timing.


Pretty sure those were being done with the mirror type fossil. To duplicate both a T15 red map + multiple expensive oils at once.
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trixxar wrote:

I find the lesser used notables are actually awesome. Freedom of movement anyone can be game changing defensively, graceful assault is free onslaught for casters, saving either some serious coin freeing up a slot, and both are very cheap.


Don't forget the 3 '+1 minimum X charge / 5% chance to gain X charge on kill' notables. Those can be quite potent if you don't have ready access to charges by default.
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imLuCaSsS wrote:
After 1 month I decided to give a try ( once again ) to Blight.

Made my build, I heard that anointment of items its fun and its the best part of the league. Oh right, I'll be doing a new build looking for that special anointment getting a passive "for free" on my build.

Then I opened the trade website and noticed a golden oil worth 400c.

I need 2 golden oils to get one single passive. 800c.

Question: Why the best part of the league ( anoint items ) its so rare and expansive, worth 800c and almost nobody can have acess to it?


That's the problem with this game. New content its so rare and expansive that makes the whole gaming experience a shit.

If we are playing BLIGHT league, the oils should be a lot more common, drop a lot more. If this game was well balanced ( what is not ) the most expansive oils should worth like what? 20c?

If playing the blight league its already impossible to get certain oils, take a guess when the league its done.

Fix? = Increase A LOT oil drops.

GGG will do it? Of course not. Cause they always make things like this broken as f*.

Well, nvm then. Not playing anymore.

Blight should and could be a lot better if oils was more common drops. Making a lot of more builds viable. But guess what, it's not. lol
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gj GGG. See u next league

Actually the problem with you, is YOU!

You have an unrealistic expectation that the theoretical build you made would just be available to you. Path of building is great, and so are build guides, but you don’t have to be a Mensa member to think... hmmm... if these perfect drops are easy to get, would they really be this powerful.

That is not to say that you cannot have a goal of getting the items to make your power build but having the entitled attitude you do will just make you more and more miserable sticking around in PoE. There are other games out there that cater to your those with your play style.
Come on man, pick a cheap passive. You are welcome.
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imLuCaSsS wrote:
Question: Why the best part of the league ( anoint items ) its so rare and expansive, worth 800c and almost nobody can have acess to it?


Cool, the forum ate my reply. Tl;dr - you have access, you just don't want to spend a couple hours grinding for it.
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Gravedancer wrote:
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Nephalim wrote:
Spoiler
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crunkatog wrote:
Recall that until 3.8.1d patch, a couple people in global 820 were offering blighted map mirror services

Mirror. Services. For a map

With drop rates this low, it's going to be a while before golden oils become available in sub-1ex quantity.

A clan mate ran a couple pubby shares of blighted white maps. While you could say the subpar yield is because they weren't red maps, even for a white map the loot was subpar.

Blighted map drop rate needs to go up AND blight rewards should be scaled properly to number of lanes/tier.

I get they don't want random casuals to have Tribal Fury or Soul of Steel. But at the current pace, it's apparent nobody wants to use oils because they are the new mirrors.

When blight goes core (and it probably will), this will become absurd. As it is, even with Sister Mary Cordyceps showing up in every zone, you can't beg, borrow, or steal a blighted map.


You'd have to be some kind of stupid to take someone up on heir blighted map mirror service, regardless of patch timing.
Spoiler


Pretty sure those were being done with the mirror type fossil. To duplicate both a T15 red map + multiple expensive oils at once.


Yes it was being done with fossils.
~ Please separate the PoE1 and PoE2 forums.
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Phrazz wrote:
Why are you strawmaning? I mean, that's not what I said - at all.


I wasn't trying to misquote you. And, it's not a strawman argument.

I do understand the necessity of "the carrot on the stick" to make a game interesting and to provide the player with meaningful goals. And, in a "grinding gear" game, it's critical - We all want to see that long-looked-for item finally drop. Loot 'splosions are our bread and butter.

I rewrote a reply several times. Each time it went off the rails... :) So, I'll try to keep this one focused and to the point:

In short - Doing more, better, isn't the issue.

The game is playing me more than I am playing it. RNG, outside factors like borked build guides by reputable builders who just didn't apply the patch notes correctly, a Marketplace that is a joke, "chase items" that one can chase all day and never, ever, get, no matter how much their character "needs" such a thing to get to the stage where it might drop...

Have nots <------------> Haves

^--- That's the line. Whether it's "casuals" compared to "progression guild members" in an MMO or PoE Players compared to Uber-Elder Famers.

Not with all Leagues, but with a growing number of them and new patches, those degrees of separation are getting longer and sometimes more difficult to span from the low end to the other.

Power Creep, End Game Progression, Gold Sinks, mechanics changes relying on drops/items that become more difficult to acquire, etc... PoE has all of these things.

But, it's not stable or predictable. New builds, items, critical drop rates, and the actual activities of other players enter into a complex formula of "Accessibility."

If it's a healthy League and everyone is playing it to its fullest? In general, even the players on the far left of the line get to have a good time, too, in such a League. If it's not? That's bad for everyone's gameplay experience for a variety of reasons. And, most of those aren't dependent on whether or not a player plays more, better.

The Chase is real. Chase Items/Drops/etc are always somewhere in a League. And, when they're not specifically in the League's mechanics? Other, past, Leagues are incorporated more intimately in terms of their old items/affixes and synergies with new Patch Note changes to give players a "Chase Item" goal.

It simply seems, however, that my "game" is more often playing me. It's not about "goals" and putting work into attaining them. It's about having these goals held in front of me and the difficulty in attaining them being more RNG than "skill." Even "Hours Played" can't counter RNG.

An unhealthy Marketplace controlled by bots and pricefixers doesn't help at all, either. Players who aren't pushing content or are disinterested in League mechanics do not contribute to its health. That's an aggravating factor, too.

/sigh

I tell ya what - Disregard my complaints. To be honest, they're nothing special and no different than anything I used to hear from fellow gamers in other games where I was far at the end of the spectrum in terms of being able to experience all that the game could offer. It's a very old story, this Power and Difficulty Creep in such games. GGG has attempted to present gamers with the possibility that it won't always be so bad. We get chances, four times a year, to chase the goalpost once again. And, if RNG is on our side that League? Maybe we'll get to see it all and play it all. Or... not.
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fomori2 wrote:
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imLuCaSsS wrote:
After 1 month I decided to give a try ( once again ) to Blight.

Made my build, I heard that anointment of items its fun and its the best part of the league. Oh right, I'll be doing a new build looking for that special anointment getting a passive "for free" on my build.

Then I opened the trade website and noticed a golden oil worth 400c.

I need 2 golden oils to get one single passive. 800c.

Question: Why the best part of the league ( anoint items ) its so rare and expansive, worth 800c and almost nobody can have acess to it?


That's the problem with this game. New content its so rare and expansive that makes the whole gaming experience a shit.

If we are playing BLIGHT league, the oils should be a lot more common, drop a lot more. If this game was well balanced ( what is not ) the most expansive oils should worth like what? 20c?

If playing the blight league its already impossible to get certain oils, take a guess when the league its done.

Fix? = Increase A LOT oil drops.

GGG will do it? Of course not. Cause they always make things like this broken as f*.

Well, nvm then. Not playing anymore.

Blight should and could be a lot better if oils was more common drops. Making a lot of more builds viable. But guess what, it's not. lol
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gj GGG. See u next league

Actually the problem with you, is YOU!

You have an unrealistic expectation that the theoretical build you made would just be available to you. Path of building is great, and so are build guides, but you don’t have to be a Mensa member to think... hmmm... if these perfect drops are easy to get, would they really be this powerful.

That is not to say that you cannot have a goal of getting the items to make your power build but having the entitled attitude you do will just make you more and more miserable sticking around in PoE. There are other games out there that cater to your those with your play style.

The whole thing about my thread is: If we are playing bligt league and we are supposed to drop oils, then we should find oils. It should drop more often. Simple.

Its like abyss league where we could NEVER find a Lich.

I do not understand why New league's things are so rare or expansive like a mirror. Just makes no sense.

New league and new stuff so rare like a mirror makes the whole game exactly the same shit. No difference between league and standard. So whats the point? ¬¬"
My end, it justifies my means,
All I ever do is delay,
My every attempt to evade,
The end of the road
And my end....
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