Mirrors and scam: Add a mirror service in town

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It's your own fault if you get scammed.

Good luck scamming me, but, i am just concerned when i see the answers giving to this issue as it will not serve to be in GGG's interest to make a breeding ground for scammers.

I am not one moment in doubt that scammers will still laugh in their grave if the argument that: "If you are scammed with no way of protecting yourself, then is it your own fault.", becomes the ruling argument.

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Tagek wrote:

Well I should have phrased small fee differently.
Some people ask 5 exalts + for a mirror service.

Also, you're just being a massive hypocrite by saying that in general.
It's like saying you've never dozed off a little or failed to pay proper attention to something. Every human has done that in their life, and for some it has happened while trading which might have resulted in them getting scammed.

If you don't pay attention while making trades that might result in you losing a significant amount of currency then you're retarded. There's simply no other way around it. It's not hard to avoid getting scammed. And as a poster above me said, Wraeclast is supposed to be unforgiving and hostile. That's the reason behind the loot system after all. Why should this be different?

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Eriktion wrote:

i think scamming adds to the fun of the game ... there should be more possibilities

remember this game is a hostile environment between players

So you think bringing out dishonesty and encouraging the very worst traits of of human nature is fun.

Anytime a human being takes joy/fun in ruining another human being's joy/fun it makes me sick in the stomach.

The mirror process bypasses the part of a trade where you are able to know the difference between a scammer and a trustworthy person, unless the scammer makes an obvious mistake or with obvious untrustworthy behavior.

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Crackmonster wrote:

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Eriktion wrote:

i think scamming adds to the fun of the game ... there should be more possibilities

remember this game is a hostile environment between players

You are saying it is great to betray someones trust, by cheating them, costing them time and resources and that it should be a greater part of this game?

Not simply fooling them to trade you more than they should, but by not doing as you agreed to do? :)

If GGG was like you i don't think they would add mouseover protection to trades, hell, why even have a trade window, you might as well just drop your loots on the ground.

Although I hate scamming, I do agree to an extent that scamming is part of the game. To the extent I agree, is very little. Scamming some small items, yes. That's 'fine'. No major harm done. However, the mirror is the Kevin Bacon of currency.

It would be like going to a fine restaraunt with a valet, and they scam you buy taking your change you have between the seats. Sure, go ahead. I hate you for it, but it's very little. However, if they steal my car... that's a problem. I trusted them with a service that we both agreed upon (park my car) and then he stole it. It'll cost me a holy f*** load of currency in order to get my car back, unlike the time it would take to get the change between my seats.


edit - also when trading a mirror, you're best to get a good amount of collateral. I'd say make them give you their armor, helm and main weapon for collateral.

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xxxmetalgearxxx wrote:

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Tagek wrote:

Well I should have phrased small fee differently.
Some people ask 5 exalts + for a mirror service.

Also, you're just being a massive hypocrite by saying that in general.
It's like saying you've never dozed off a little or failed to pay proper attention to something. Every human has done that in their life, and for some it has happened while trading which might have resulted in them getting scammed.

If you don't pay attention while making trades that might result in you losing a significant amount of currency then you're retarded. There's simply no other way around it. It's not hard to avoid getting scammed. And as a poster above me said, Wraeclast is supposed to be unforgiving and hostile. That's the reason behind the loot system after all. Why should this be different?

Because the loot system involves new stuff, while getting scammed means losing something that was actually yours. Again though, it's easy to be against something like this when you've never been scammed before.

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BitterBiped wrote:

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Eriktion wrote:

i think scamming adds to the fun of the game ... there should be more possibilities

remember this game is a hostile environment between players

So you think bringing out dishonesty and encouraging the very worst traits of of human nature is fun.

Anytime a human being takes joy/fun in ruining another human being's joy/fun it makes me sick in the stomach.

well i would never do such a thing in real life

but this is a game where i can be an asshole if i like to

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oopomopoo wrote:

It would be like going to a fine restaraunt with a valet, and they scam you buy taking your change you have between the seats. Sure, go ahead. I hate you for it, but it's very little. However, if they steal my car... that's a problem. I trusted them with a service that we both agreed upon (park my car) and then he stole it. It'll cost me a holy f*** load of currency in order to get my car back, unlike the time it would take to get the change between my seats.

That analogy is retarded. In both cases they're stealing from you. Not scamming you. Learn the difference.

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xxxmetalgearxxx wrote:

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oopomopoo wrote:

It would be like going to a fine restaraunt with a valet, and they scam you buy taking your change you have between the seats. Sure, go ahead. I hate you for it, but it's very little. However, if they steal my car... that's a problem. I trusted them with a service that we both agreed upon (park my car) and then he stole it. It'll cost me a holy f*** load of currency in order to get my car back, unlike the time it would take to get the change between my seats.

That analogy is retarded. In both cases they're stealing from you. Not scamming you. Learn the difference.

Scamming is technically stealing, though.

He entrusted those people with his car, just temporarily, just like I can entrust my Mirror with someone just temporarily. Whether it is his car being stolen or my mirror, it is both stealing.

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well i would never do such a thing in real life

but this is a game where i can be an asshole if i like to

You betray their trust at the cost of their time and resources equally whether you do it in real life or online.

You are basically saying online people are worth less and time people spend online is worth less.

I know the two of you are trolling, but, come on..