SNEAKY, CONNIVING, SHAMELESS ZOMBIE KILLERS !!!

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Bretherezenx wrote:

Comparing Blight's Zombies to pre-Blight? Yes, they are gutted beyond belief. That cooldown reduction makes a LOT of difference. And as a Summoner "yourself", you should be able to recognize that simple fact. Yet you can't, and I wonder why.

The fact of the matter is: Zombies' main form of damage is being gutted, and no other minion, especially Golems, are receiving nerfs of any sort the same as Zombies are. It's unwarranted, it's unnecessary, it's blatantly attempting to shoe-horn Zombies in to a more defensive role for minions.

But their basic attacks are gonna be killing a lot faster. Can you do the math to tell the average time a zombie summoner will lose on a pack clear with better basic killing?

Edit: Even if the basic attacks weren't buffed, it's not much time lost.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

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Bretherezenx wrote:

Go read my post and read everything else I have said about Zombies, or shut up.

This is still a nerf to Zombies' clear speed.

Their bossing potential is literally not, and never has been, an issue at all. Never has been. Still won't be.

This is, in fact, a mapping clear speed nerf.

If you have to substitute a gem in to your build, sacrificing damage, for clear speed: It's a nerf.

Damage is not an issue! It never was! Open your ears.

You are the one who isn't reading, you can substitute a gem without losing damage as i've told you about six times in a row, zombies are getting practically double their current damage. They will clear faster, they will boss faster use your eyes and read the numbers.

I'm gonna leave this here anyway by all means flip the apple cart and quit over it, cheaper gear for the rest of us

I really hope you are right. I can't shake the feeling that they haven't fixed the dumb AI and there is still the collision between zombies. You're basically trusting your necro life to a bunch of idiots. I hope the patch gameplay will live up to the hype GGG created for the necromancer.

If i understand correctly, violent dead jewel has been removed.
Can't the ones you already have (in standard) be still used?
Does it means you will have a really good (?) zombimancer with the "soon-leagacy" jewels (you might already have, as you used your suspended quests to take this reward twice while reading the patch-notes ;) ) and the rework of the skills?

They buffed melee beyond imagination, cyclone clearing beyond a sceen. And then there is summoner league, nerf everything is the way to go.

Before zombies have 5s cooldown meaning they do 0.2 per second (used for calculating with increased cooldown recovery)

with 224% inc cooldown before, they did a maximum of 0.648 slam per second (0.2*3.24) (cooldown of 1/0.648 seconds)

now they have 0.25 slams per second and with a lvl 26 gem they will do max of 0.5 slams per second (0.25 * 2) So its like ~23% less slams compared to before

And their slams probably suck a more at lower levels and earlier game

Aside from that It's not probably still not big a deal especially since you can use multistrike anyways for maximum slam time

With level 20 gems, with no other gear there are only get 9 zombies compared to the 10 zombies before (but you needed to invest ascendency points and more into the tree, now you have option for stuff like unholy might on kill without needing a 400 es 0 life 0 res chest)

But again with higher gem level you probably can get more or same amount of zombies as before.

Don't worry about me. Just trolling through. =)

And is there anything stopping you to use the jewels you already have? They won't disappear do they?
Sorry to insist but can not find this info.