Oni-Goroshi drop rate is ridiculous.

Og was introduced over a year ago. During that time PoE had many changes in mechanics and among them also was some "toying" witch drop/spawn chances. Probability that something that was said over year ago is still as it was is just small. Very small.

I only pointed some cases, posted some questions and provided a solution to veryfie "how things are". No "how they were" or "how i think they are". And i stated that clearly.

On the other hand You (You all) claimed something as if no changes were made during that time. Thats not evidence. At all.

You want to prove something? Use scientific method to it, veryfie. I said i would gladly know current situation but i wont invest my time into veryfication.

Stop defending Your illusions. Either veryfie reality or dont but be honest with it.

PS. I never take things personally. Im interested in information that is rooted in reality, im interested in things as they are. Not as i think they are or someone else thinks as they are or someone says as they are. You understand? Also check posts for "personal invectives" and tell me who used those and in what direction.

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Reinerro wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Farming it is the point, and you're doing it wrong. You should have four characters and cycle through them... getting each run to about 15-20 seconds. You'll get your sword(s) eventually. I got two this league. It happens.

Is it "worth it"? Probably not. But it's something to do. There's a whole thread dedicated to it. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2092770

I know how to farm it properly, believe me I did it quite a few times. The reason of doing it with one char was to see how much Hillocks do I need to kill for the drop. Calculating all kills with 4 chars is kinda annoying imo, so i decided to stick with only one for the experiment.

Mind blown....

Your post is not really responding to what has been said. You are the person that has made unfounded assertions/assumptions. I have simply listed the possibilities and stated what is the obvious most likely possibility of those different possibilities.

My post are as simple as i can make them. Either You understand or not.

And quotes where i make those "assupmtions". Full posts, not fragments.

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Reinerro wrote:

I have been a big fan of Oni-Goroshi builds for a while now, early game 6-link item that can carry you through the endgame? Yes please. But farming it since 3.2.0 has been a pain in the ass. I decided to run a little experiment and see, how much time will it take to get Oni-Goroshi with only one farming char. So i started my long journey. After reaching level 7 I started killing only Hillock and than reseting the location. After killing him about 900 times I have reached level 9. For killing those 900 Hillock I got 11 unique item drops: Last Resort, 2 Lifesprigs, Sidhebreath, 2 Blackhearts, 2 Thousand Ribbons, Lochtonial Caress, Goldrim and Tabula Rasa. Of course, that can be because RNG doesn't like me that much, but before 3.2.0 patch my chars had never reached level 8, and Oni-Goroshi would drop at about 20%-70% of 7 level exp. If making the drop chance a bit higher is not an option, perhaps making it a guaranteed drop at level 9 would be a good idea? Or at least make it a guaranteed drop at level 10, so that stupid players like me would know, that all that effort will eventually lead to something (also sorry for my poor english, i am not a native speaker :)).

I admire your persistence, lol

I have a HCSSF character, that I have the mission on to collect every Unique item in the game. I spend about 6 hours farming that, but then gave in and created 2 more scions. With those 3 characters I managed to rota-farm it in another 3 hours time, and could finally set forth this, what I now believe stupid idea of mine, haha. It's a journey and a half.

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de99ial wrote:

Its what Charan said. If he'd not deleted all his posts

I didn't delete them. GGG did.

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Who the heck bumped this? Seriously. There's a GD thread for this.

Also, Moon: you know as well I do that all blame regarding the OG grind design lies with me, not GGG. I noticed you seem to be back on that particular soap-box (whyyy!?) so, uh, yeah. Please stop blaming GGG for what I did when I designed the sand-pounding grind. When I considered how the item works and the fact that it shouldn't even exist in Wraeclast, I couldn't conceive of a more appropriate way of getting it than hiding it deep into a trek through many, many alternate reality versions of very early Wraeclast.

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So what the fuck are you kids actually arguing about? From what I can tell, the 'drop rate' of an item that doesn't even have a drop rate. Unless I'm misinformed, Uber Hillock only spawns if you don't have an Oni-Goroshi in your possession, and he always drops Oni-Goroshi after wielding it against you. That said, even if he does spawn against an OG-wielding character, he won't drop it. BUT I should like to think that GGG are smart enough not to spawn a truly unique-wielding enemy against someone already using that unique in a zone they can completely control (i.e. The Twilight Strand).

This is all semantics imo. You get one OG per character via Uber Hillock. One way or another. I've been asked if he'll spawn if you found him before but somehow failed to kill him. I have no reason to believe he won't -- you don't have an OG, so the primary condition for his spawning is still met.

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

Also, Moon: you know as well I do that all blame regarding the OG grind design lies with me, not GGG. I noticed you seem to be back on that particular soap-box (whyyy!?) so, uh, yeah. Please stop blaming GGG for what I did when I designed the sand-pounding grind.

I wasn't aware I had.

But yeah, I jumped in because I think this remains a genuinely interesting question: "Does pain-for-reward have a legitimate role in the design of grindy games?"

I copy-pasted the most interesting bits of our conversation on this topic a few pages back (apologies for not asking permission first), in the hopes that someone who disagrees would have something interesting to say (since people who agree are less likely to post something interesting to me personally). Not many bites so far...

Edit: It's hilarious how your appearance in this thread shut de99ial right up.

Last post here, since I can just communicate with any of you more directly: it's a dead horse as far as I'm concerned. I treat the OG grind like an event. It had a huge launch, then a huge drop-off when the frequency was reduced (bit like lower drop rate on a gacha after the event has ended), and now some die-hard hangers-on. Which is fine, but really, for me it was all about that launch.

OG won't be 'in' PoE '2' anyway, and by then the powerleaps will be so significant as regards skill item linking you might as well consider an inherent 6L item legacy. An antique. A collector's curio. If, indeed, it isn't already.

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

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de99ial wrote:

Its what Charan said. If he'd not deleted all his posts

I didn't delete them. GGG did.

Thanks for claryfication and sorry for spreading misinformation.

Nice to see You, man. Are You doing well in this times?

Take care and be well.

It's fine, it was a miscommunication between Chris and I. It's in the past now. :)


I'm hanging in there. Been locked down for almost a month now. Take care over there.