Oni-Goroshi drop rate is ridiculous.

Simple straight forward logic is different from speculation and evidence.

You assume not know because You dont have acces to game code. Thats speculation.

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de99ial wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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de99ial wrote:

But Hillock spawn is a chance but OG drop is guaranteed. So from some perspective Hillock=OG. And if one OG per char then one UH per char.

You are wrong.

Prove it.

The statement, "OG drop is guaranteed" is actually false. To make it true it would have to be corrected to say, "OG drop is guaranteed on Uber Hillock death."

OBVIOUSLY TRUE WITH ZERO ACCESS TO CODE!

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de99ial wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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de99ial wrote:

But Hillock spawn is a chance but OG drop is guaranteed. So from some perspective Hillock=OG. And if one OG per char then one UH per char.

You are wrong.

Prove it.

Oh fuck off already. I joined this thread's discussion to talk about game design, which is a genuinely interesting topic about which to share differing opinions; not to field personal attacks from you and certainly not to prove my honesty to you.

This information comes straight from the creator's mouth. The fact that it would make zero sense otherwise is just icing on the cake. So you can believe common sense if you prefer, or you can believe authority if you prefer. You can choose.

Or you can call Charan a liar. Or you can call me a liar.

I honestly do not give a shit. The thread is already derailed. Congratulations.

This thread needs to be removed for sheer stupidity.

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Turtledove wrote:

The statement, "OG drop is guaranteed" is actually false. To make it true it would have to be corrected to say, "OG drop is guaranteed on Uber Hillock death."

OBVIOUSLY TRUE WITH ZERO ACCESS TO CODE!

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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"Theorists" without connection to reality.

Have a nice life.

PS. I already told You what need to be done to veryfie it but im not gonna invest my time because to me situation is very clear and obvious. I have more than 10 OGs, i know how farming it works. Right now its "he said, she said".

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de99ial wrote:

"Theorists" without connection to reality.

Excuse me, but what is your connection to reality ?

From what I read, you have given no undeniable proof of what you are claiming, neither anything else.

On the other hand, Turtle and Gibbousmoon have given a realistic supposition of how OG's drop is being handled, based on logic, itself based on quotes and facts.
They have never claimed that they had the truth, merely that ( for explained reasons ) their hypothesis was likely to be true.


What have you brought to the topic ?



PS : there is no burden of proof on them, by the way.

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de99ial wrote:

Spoiler

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Turtledove wrote:

The statement, "OG drop is guaranteed" is actually false. To make it true it would have to be corrected to say, "OG drop is guaranteed on Uber Hillock death."

OBVIOUSLY TRUE WITH ZERO ACCESS TO CODE!

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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"Theorists" without connection to reality.

Have a nice life.

PS. I already told You what need to be done to veryfie it but im not gonna invest my time because to me situation is very clear and obvious. I have more than 10 OGs, i know how farming it works. Right now its "he said, she said".

I know you didn't get those 10 Onis without killing Uber Hillock, so "Oni Goroshi is guaranteed on Uber Hillock death" is more accurate than "Oni Goroshi is guaranteed", because it also illustrates the required parameters for Oni to drop.

You also never killed more than 1 Uber Hillock and get 1 Oni on the same character, if you actually managed that, do farm a full inventory of them until you reach level >10 and print the bug information so TencentGGG fix it.

So until you have proof that you can still spawn Uber Hillock MORE THAN ONCE, and drop an Oni for each of his death, you're welcomed to follow logic or the creators words...

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de99ial wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

The statement, "OG drop is guaranteed" is actually false. To make it true it would have to be corrected to say, "OG drop is guaranteed on Uber Hillock death."

OBVIOUSLY TRUE WITH ZERO ACCESS TO CODE!

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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"Theorists" without connection to reality.

Have a nice life.

PS. I already told You what need to be done to veryfie it but im not gonna invest my time because to me situation is very clear and obvious. I have more than 10 OGs, i know how farming it works. Right now its "he said, she said".

Got it. "Charan is a liar." The person who created the item and provided all the writing for it is going out of his way to deceive you.

Or, "gibbousmoon is a liar." He is misreporting information in order to deceive you.

Pick one. Those are your only two options. There is no third. And there are no theories here, de99ial.

I rarely accuse people of being a troll, because it's usually a dick thing to do as well as a logically supect ad hominem attack, but I am accusing you of being a troll, right now.

"Have a nice life" indeed.

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de99ial wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

The statement, "OG drop is guaranteed" is actually false. To make it true it would have to be corrected to say, "OG drop is guaranteed on Uber Hillock death."

OBVIOUSLY TRUE WITH ZERO ACCESS TO CODE!

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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"Theorists" without connection to reality.

Have a nice life.

PS. I already told You what need to be done to veryfie it but im not gonna invest my time because to me situation is very clear and obvious. I have more than 10 OGs, i know how farming it works. Right now its "he said, she said".

Yes, I admit you know far more about farming OG than I do.

No, you are plain wrong about your assertions. I'm the one that has argued logic. You have not been. For example, I stated the obvious fact that "The statement, "OG drop is guaranteed" is actually false. To make it true it would have to be corrected to say, "OG drop is guaranteed on Uber Hillock death."" Then tried to explain to you why there is difference. For some unexplained reason you can't come up with a logical response?

I made it clear that I was stating what the different possibilities were and you made the silly assertion that I was speculating! If you can think of a different possibility then what is it? You are the only person here that has speculated. You are speculating (apparently) that the code check to prevent multiple OG's per character must be done at UH spawn time rather than OG drop time and can't accept any other possibility! Even though that makes less sense and your own anecdotal evidence would seem to make it less likely.

P.S. (In response to your P.S.) I already told you that I don't care to prove it. You are getting worked up over nothing. You've seemed to have gotten so worked up over this you probably wouldn't believe it even if I did prove it to myself anyway.

P.P.S. de99ial, you really shouldn't take things so personally. <shrug>