Oni-Goroshi drop rate is ridiculous.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

Upon what basis do you assert that a single Hillock spawn prevents future Hillock spawns?

Have You ever heard about anyone who found TWO OGs on one character?

About rest - go to mirror man. And controll Your ego.

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de99ial wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

Upon what basis do you assert that a single Hillock spawn prevents future Hillock spawns?

Have You ever heard about anyone who found TWO OGs on one character?

Reread what you quoted.

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About rest - go to mirror man. And controll Your ego.

Sorry, but I have no idea wtf you are trying to say. I guess you are trying to personally insult me again? But it doesn't make sense. Reword it perhaps.

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de99ial wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

Upon what basis do you assert that a single Hillock spawn prevents future Hillock spawns?

Have You ever heard about anyone who found TWO OGs on one character?

About rest - go to mirror man. And controll Your ego.

This is a question that I asked. Charan's response IIRC was that he assumed that the OG drop was limited to once per character rather than the Uber Hillock spawn was limited to once per character.

It makes sense though. The Hillock spawn happens when the instance is created. My first OG, once I started a run I was very paranoid about quitting the run before the end. I mean it is possible that the implementer "messed" up and did it the wrong way but I think it is fairly safe to assume that he did it right.

But Hillock spawn is a chance but OG drop is guaranteed. So from some perspective Hillock=OG. And if one OG per char then one UH per char.

I never heard about a situation when UH is spawned, player didnt kill it and continued farming and spawn it later. You can test it, feel free to do so. Create farmers, go and find first UH, dont kill it and try to find it second time. I would like to know if this works but im not gonna invest my time into it.

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de99ial wrote:

But Hillock spawn is a chance but OG drop is guaranteed. So from some perspective Hillock=OG. And if one OG per char then one UH per char.

I never heard about a situation when UH is spawned, player didnt kill it and continued farming and spawn it later. You can test it, feel free to do so. Create farmers, go and find first UH, dont kill it and try to find it second time. I would like to know if this works but im not gonna invest my time into it.

I understand.

The spawn would happen at instance creation. Therefore, if you don't finish a run then Uber Hillock might have been spawned and you would never know it. So, to put your question a different way. Has anyone ever heard about a situation where a character never spawns UH?

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de99ial wrote:

But Hillock spawn is a chance but OG drop is guaranteed. So from some perspective Hillock=OG. And if one OG per char then one UH per char.

You are wrong.

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Turtledove wrote:

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de99ial wrote:

But Hillock spawn is a chance but OG drop is guaranteed. So from some perspective Hillock=OG. And if one OG per char then one UH per char.

I never heard about a situation when UH is spawned, player didnt kill it and continued farming and spawn it later. You can test it, feel free to do so. Create farmers, go and find first UH, dont kill it and try to find it second time. I would like to know if this works but im not gonna invest my time into it.

I understand.

The spawn would happen at instance creation. Therefore, if you don't finish a run then Uber Hillock might have been spawned and you would never know it. So, to put your question a different way. Has anyone ever heard about a situation where a character never spawns UH?

No. Eventually UH will be spawned if You will be persistent. Longest runs i heard were spawning him at lvl 9. Never heard about anybody reaching lvl 10. I never crossed lvl 8.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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de99ial wrote:

But Hillock spawn is a chance but OG drop is guaranteed. So from some perspective Hillock=OG. And if one OG per char then one UH per char.

You are wrong.

Prove it.

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de99ial wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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de99ial wrote:

But Hillock spawn is a chance but OG drop is guaranteed. So from some perspective Hillock=OG. And if one OG per char then one UH per char.

You are wrong.

Prove it.

The statement, "OG drop is guaranteed" is actually false. To make it true it would have to be corrected to say, "OG drop is guaranteed on Uber Hillock death."

The point is that the code would only have one check for limiting OG drops to one per character. That would be when the OG drops or when Uber Hillock is spawned. It makes far more sense that they put the check on the OG drop. In your previous post you gave us reasonable anecdotal evidence that GGG put the check in the correct place.

edit: actually I guess another spot in the code where the check could be made would be picking up the OG. But that would be an even stranger thing to ever want to test! :-D

Thats not evidence, thats speculation.