MAP drop nerfed after 0.10.2 ?

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KarraKurri wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

You're all tinfoil hat wearing fools.

srsly you should be on probation long time ago. I dont even mention that your feedback is very toxic for this game.

Good thing is that GGG have far more common sense that 'hardores' and fanboys.

Hes an w/e you want to call him but hes correct for once you are wearing a tin foil hat

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Fargali wrote:

Lol the latest patch proved that there was something wrong..

Fanboys are the death of any game with their blindness.

Actually, it's people who say things like proved. Absolutes. Very few things are ever absolute.

All the patch notes said was that they were increasing drop rates. More than likely, this was because of all the player feedback about farming docks, and failing to progress in maps.

To Karra:

Actually, the people that are toxic to this game are those that come to forums with their conspiracy theories and get everyone all worked up over nothing. Those who make everyone skeptical of what GGG does, despite the fact that they have always been upfront with changes.

Don't like my posts. Tough luck. I'm usually straight to the point and have no problems telling someone when they're wrong or that I disagree. Sometimes I'm nice about it, sometimes I flat out say what's on my mi

I have NEVER broken any forum rules. There is nothing to put me on probation for. Sorry.

P.S. Several of my more "specific feedback" have made it into patch notes. Say what you will, more often than not, I"m correct. And when I'm wrong, I eat that humble pie.

For me you are toxic. Sorry. Especially whrn it comes to defending broken like hell map system and RNG content gating.

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Actually, the people that are toxic to this game are those that come to forums with their conspiracy theories and get everyone all worked up over nothing.

Yes because investing 100+ hours in char levelling and spending two dayn in docks without map drop is "geting all for nothing". Srsly... whats wrong with you?

/bleh...

I love increased map drop rate and i hope this is first step in the direction of fixin flawed endgame system that is so RNG based and gated only because GGG can say: "look how 'hardcore' our game is! you must farm 6 hours to even try endgame for 15 mins!"

eot.

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KarraKurri wrote:

For me you are toxic. Sorry. Especially whrn it comes to defending broken like hell map system.

Funny. Cause many of more recent posts have been about ways to actually improve the map system. Such as creating floors based upon how high the maps IIQ is. Or having mods that work with each such as negative resists and increased ele dmg add more than 1+1.

I attempt to fix what's wrong. Not just complain that maps are too rare like so many others.

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inf1 wrote:

statistics, we run like 50+ 72 maps

Ok, stop right there...

What makes you believe that a samplesize of 50 or let us say 60, because it was surely not in the hundreds, otherwise you would surely have mentioned because, when basing an argument on statistics, you have surely noted every drop, even or rather especially(!) if it was usual, because you surely know that, when basing arguments on statistics... you see where this is going?

So, what makes you believe that a samplesize of 50 to 60 maps is enough to make any valid claim about future drops on maps? You know, in statistics there is a so called margin of error (wikipedia-link because I cannot put a link to a page of a book on my desk) which, in short, states, that the larger the sample size the more accurate the prediction. Surveys with around one or two thousand(!!!) participants for a population of several millions have a likelihood of 5-10% to be completely and totally wrong. And we are talking about things we can measure extremely accurate, like the average grades in school or the average age for the occurence of butt-cancer for example, and still around 1 in 10 or 20 statistics is completely false.

And now here you are, talking about statistics in an environment that is mostly based on assumptions (like binomial distribution of map-drops which is totally wrong in the first place), extremely variable conditions (+quantity on maps which changes roughly every run, groupsize and specific killspeed and so on) and a samplesize so small that it would be still inaccurate to give estimated values on the outcome of a coin toss.

Again, what makes you believe that under these conditions a samplesize of 500, let alone your "50+", is enough to make any statement about mapdrops in maps at all? The feelings in your guts? When they wrench everything is usual, when they don´t there must have been a ninja-nerf?

Now don´t get me wrong, nerf or bug is a real possibility. But RNG is as valid an explanation as those and, concerning Occam´s razor, is the better one (because it relies on the fewest assumptions) unless it can be falsified.

If you really want reliable numbers go ahead, run 1000 maps of every level, write down every drop from every mob, write down the time it takes and maybe MAYBE then you could try to argue about RNG-or-not based on statistics. Until then every number in this thread like "x days without a map" or "50 maps and no map" must be regarded as "pulled out of the ass!"


best regards

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Fluttershypony wrote:

how much are you getting paid to defend this crap map system?

If this was a "response" to my post, I would rather ask "what are you getting paid to attack it based on nothing but hot air?" I suggest attending some more elementary school to improve your alphabetic skills, otherwise you would have realised that I do not defend anything, but just falsify conspiracy-theories.

If it was not... well, still the same.

how much are you getting paid to defend this crap map system?

Thank you op, they patched it, now I'm getting really nice map drops.

Hope they don't nerf it back...

RNG is RNG... if you dont get maps as offen as you did doesnt mean that they had nerfed it.. it could simply mean that you had a bad luck... and its funny to see that alot you guys believe that there is some kind of conspiracy involved.

haha another funny "omg rng is broken" thread

1) why would they do it in fist place? They dont want people to play maps?

2) if you dont understand what rng is and how it works, this site should help you

regards

I think most of the ppls who wrote thoe bosslike coments never ever saw lvl74+ maps. Developers made a hotfix means something worked not as intended