Spectre chest insanity.

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robmafia wrote:

....and we're back to SERIOUSLY comparing to cyclone, the most absurdly OP build in the game.

seriously. 11 pages. repeated comparisons to the most broken skill/builds in the history of the game - as if this is a valid comparison and every skill should be as strong as the most brokenly OP skill in the game... that's likely getting nerf hammered.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

And for 11 pages you have 'argued' that it is okay for it to be by far the hardest to get rare item in game, because spectres are not the worst game in the build, and you seem to want poe to be 1 attack/second 2k hp at level 80 like newbie builds in 2013. Why you want a 0.5% of playerbase build to have to work 10+ times harder than the rest is beyond me, but then, you not once presented anything resembling an argument.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

Cyclone seems to be too strong. The chest the previous poster mentioned would work just as well for any physical attack, most of which seem fairly balanced to me. And such a chest can be crafted for a few exalted worth of currency fairly easily, all you need is an elder base. If you want to craft a spectre chest...tough luck. Hence the thread.

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robmafia wrote:

this is not even remotely close to anything i argued.


hence, VIS MORTIS.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

this is not even remotely close to anything i argued.


hence, VIS MORTIS.

Explain your argument if you have one then.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

Hence, Belly of the Beast. Hence Kaom's Heart. Hence Lightning Coil. But wait, there are ALTERNATIVES. And they do not take 1000 hours to get. Weird.

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robmafia wrote:

i did in great detail, but it was conveniently and repeatedly evaded and then the thread was bumped repeatedly, without content added... i even mentioned this.

ie: you didn't try to retort anything when it was said. you just bumped.


...so now you're just naming random uniques?

...and 1000 hours? come on. plus, you play on standard. you're essentially 3 months behind (or forward, depending)... but as of today, this is easier to obtain in legion than standard, and by a factor of 3.

honestly, this should take less than 10 hours.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

Great, you should have no issues whatsoever presenting your argument then!

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

As for Legion, I do not play actively currently, but if you can get me a rare vaal regalia with +1 spectres I will gladly give you up to my 50 exalted orbs in standard. Since it only takes 10 hours, you can easily deliver on it. Full 50 exalted for above Vis Mortis ES values, 10+ for any rare vaal regalia with +1 spectre on it.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

Matter of fact, since you are convinced it is so easy, why not stream the process of finding it, or, better yet, go delve ssf for a bit?

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

Since the game is so easy with everything being overpowered, and it only taking 10 hours of delve to get the item, it should be a pushover. Of course, I will gadly reimburse you for the 10-20 hours it will take with, say, 20 exalted orbs on top of the 50 for the chest? Heck, I can bump it up to a mirror, you ssf get a +1 spectre rare vaal regalia/astral plate/zodiac leather by Legion end , I will get you a mirror. 10-20 hours for a mirror, you are getting the deal of a lifetime!

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robmafia wrote:

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

I argued that it is insanely many times harder to get, not that it is much better.

oh, please. for starters, if it's not much better than you'd just be playing with a vis mortis instead of spending so much time in this thread.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

All I stated is that it has potential to be stronger defensively. You already had one ban for personal attacks and misquoting everyone.

lolwut?

now you're pretending you know what i was banned for? hint: neither.

also, show me ONE time i 'misquoted anyone.' good luck, you'll need it. the thing about quotes... they're quotes.

i bet you can't cite a single 'personal attack,' either.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

Tabula rasa is not naked,

in this game, it's considered naked. for what should be obvious reasons, but since this thread exists... it offers no defenses or stats. and yes, this game requires a piece of gear to use a skill.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

but I would looove to see a video of 2 6l spectres with spectres and summoner both being into negative resists, clearing t15. Since you claim it is easy, please, show us a video of it happening.

this is betrayal, all over again.

make a mundane claim. get incredulous responses. post proof of mundane claim. evasion/backpedaling intensifies, while insisting it's still impossible...

seriously. summoners are de facto the tankiest builds in the game. clearing t15s with ease should not be any kind of shocker.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

And if 2 and 3 spectres is viable, then why is no one playing summoners with the power level of 4

SERIOUSLY?

you're SERIOUSLY pretending that no one plays with 4 spectres? SERIOUSLY? come on, man.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

and even 5 spectres? If spectres are so strong, why is necromancer one of the least picked ascendancies, at about 0.5%? Why is raise spectre one of the least used main skills, again, at ~~0.5%?

have you seen previous leagues? gee, i wonder why there aren't many summoners IN MELEE LEAGUE? i wonder why there were so few melee chars in the last few leagues... it's so weird that trap league was full of trappers!

you're confusing power with flair (whatever's reworked, new/shiny) or kill speed.


edit: i just realized you're not even playing the league. that makes this so much weirder. you want a change that impacts leagues so you can play on standard? what?

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icovex wrote:

Hmm, yes, i want to have the possibility to have it on GG/OPOP chestpiece, where i can increase my sustainability, increase my damage, increase my life, increase my everything. So what is the problem with this?

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robmafia wrote:

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since OP asked for it - here. just one of many. this was page 10.