Empowered by the divine, you fear no weapon of man.

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Phrazz wrote:

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Iamod wrote:

You know they're changing armor right?

Source, please?

changing it to be completely useless now unless you're molten armor. lol...

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Nubman wrote:

Yes, I can read. He says SKILLS ON THE PASSIVE TREE. That to me does not mean skill gems, it means the PASSIVE TREE.

Apart from that he separately mentions molten shell.

I guess you can't or not paying close attention.
"some improvements to armour skills on the passive skill tree" means that there will be nodes that will boost skills like Molten Shell. Like 2% increased Molten Shell effectiveness or something. And like he says no changes to the core mechanic of armour, which means function, how it works or passive nodes to armour.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

Snorkle's summary is pretty spot on, armour isn't really any worse than the other defences we just don't invest in defence unless it has extreme point efficiency like MoM or Acrobatics.

If they want armour to be useful they need to make it so we might invest in defence nodes lol

the whole point of this patch was "melee REVAMP" they just confirmed that they are not changing how armor works, so either we're missing a bunch of %'s on melee survival wise or something or there's no such thing as melee revamp in future patches until 4.0?

is this only me that think this jewel seems boring ?

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Nubman wrote:

To everyone complaining about armour - did you ever consider that they may be reworking it? I feel like it has always been GGGs intention for armour to be the melee defensive layer (half the reason melee has suffered for so long), and this big melee rework could also be an armour rework.

Are you making any changes to Armour?

Not the core mechanic or base types, but there are some improvements to armour skills on the passive skill tree, and Molten Shell now directly rewards armour investment. In addition, new melee mobility improvements are a massive benefit to your defenses.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2509498/filter-account-type/staff

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Zebedin wrote:

is this only me that think this jewel seems boring ?

Not just you. Main reason being that melee characters are the ones with the least amount of Mana.
That node could be decent for casters though, allowing them to get a bit of Phys Dmg Reduction. Problem is, it's in the complete bottom left side of the Tree.

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x_KOR_x wrote:

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Zebedin wrote:

is this only me that think this jewel seems boring ?

Not just you. Main reason being that melee characters are the ones with the least amount of Mana.
That node could be decent for casters though, allowing them to get a bit of Phys Dmg Reduction. Problem is, it's in the complete bottom left side of the Tree.

Maybe they fucked up and the jewel was supposed to read converts armor to mana so we can all make caster zerkers :D

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pr13st wrote:

Maybe they fucked up and the jewel was supposed to read converts armor to mana so we can all make caster zerkers :D

That would be more useful, actually.
Might even be able to go Totems/Minions with a Marauder or Ranger(bow summoner).

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Draegnarrr wrote:

Snorkle's summary is pretty spot on, armour isn't really any worse than the other defences we just don't invest in defence unless it has extreme point efficiency like MoM or Acrobatics.

If they want armour to be useful they need to make it so we might invest in defence nodes lol

the whole point of this patch was "melee REVAMP" they just confirmed that they are not changing how armor works, so either we're missing a bunch of %'s on melee survival wise or something or there's no such thing as melee revamp in future patches until 4.0?

Armour is the least of their concerns in that regard as you can make a very tanky Jugg with zero point investment that still doesn't stand up to the rigours of actually being melee.

I don't really know how they address it though as they've gone so far down their current rabbit hole I don't think you can come up with a ladder that will reach them. they could bake DR into being melee but i think it'd be abused. Fortify was supposed to be this and its exactly what happened.

New supports is a possibility, or DR derived from doing damage in melee or my personal take buff all the underperforming melee skills substantially so we can allocate those points in defence. As a baseline if you make a 100% glass cannon build melee should do the most dps, if it doesn't then everything falls apart very quickly in the melee vs ranged paradigm as you can't fix anything without making it substantially worse.

Keep in mind, even if armor gets improved, melee boss attacks are going to be hitting much harder so it's potentially getting *worse* not better even if its buffed.