how the fuck did a skill like winter orb enter this game?

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pifpep wrote:
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arknath wrote:

Ehhh not true. I play elementalist, the most squishy of all of the winter orbers and I rip through guardians/shaper easier than I did with any other character I have tried sofar(including trapper/miner), maybe except prenerf gc-mines with double stat stick. I am nowhere close to mirrorworthy gear in fact I am mostly self found. On top of that it is safer than any of those as I can move around all the time and avoid all damage in the process.



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Phrazz wrote:


I don't think the just the power is what he's reaction to. You can try to compare it to similar skills, and it comes out on top mechanically every single time. Like comparing it to Blade Vortex: Similar build, same build up - BV forces you to be pretty close, WO has a fairly long range and freakin' auto-targets at the speed of your first sexual intercourse.

But yes, maybe it's just its "meta period". It will probably see both a numerical change and a mechanical change. Range? Projectile speed? Duration? Who knows.



So in your mind winter orb is strong because of ascendancies, trickster and elementalist or secondary explosion effects. Now do an experiment and try it without and winter orb will feel like peeing in the wind. Everything gets sprinkled a bit and you get wet.



For the first few days of flashback, there there was a winter orb character in the top three in atleast one of the ladders for every ascendancy in the game apart from necro and saboteur.

Juggernaught, chieftan, berserker, slayer, gladiator, champion, pathfinder, deadeye, raider, guardian, heirophant, assassin, trickster, elementalist, occultist, ascendant.

All of them had winter orb variants somewhere very close to the top of their respective leaderboards; in many (most?) cases, winter orb literally dominated the board with few alternatives.

It's not the ascendancies driving the skill; the skill is too strong in its own right.
Winter Orb is better than Vaal Spark ever was. It needs another nerf for sure.
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