how the fuck did a skill like winter orb enter this game?
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seriously though, how the fuck? I watched some snooze fest SSF HC uber elder, this shit should not be in the game, period.
B E E F
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" This is a problem. You "watched someone"? Please don't base "this shouldn't be in the game"-assertions on the fact that you've "watched someone". Try it. Min/max it then make a statement on your experiences. That said, it seems very strong. I've only tried it as a gimmick on my Freezing Pulse character. FAR from optimized for Winter Orb, yet when I just swapped my links for Winter Orb, it did more than great. And when it does that great as a gimmick in a non-optimized build, I get... Nervous. It will probably get hit, as the new league is focused on melee. How can melee shine if skills like Winter Orb wrecks everything while running? Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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" Before broadband people were far less likely to form their opinions on what other people did. Now, people see something on-line and pass judgement without even considering what went into a player achieving something "dramatic". Like in Delve with darkness running, you didn't need to rock insanely expensive gear to survive the darkness for extensive periods of time, but in actual practice it was extremely limited since you could basically trip on a barrel and kill yourself, let alone simply dying while running past the hoards. When one player managed to beat uber elder on a level 30, there was an outcry against mirage arrow and scourge arrow, and almost every person directing their vitriol at those skills could never even hope to achieve doing the same thing, with most never having beat uber at all. And just like clockwork, instead of people looking at the larger picture, they simply blame whatever the newest flavor of the month as the source of all that's wrong with PoE. It's crazy how folks see something someone else went to great lengths to do and take ownership of that experience as if they had done it themselves. Yep, totally over league play.
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@aim_deep
I'm a bit baffled, honestly - you've been around a long time. Like everything else, winter orb will remain strong for its intro period, and then the meta deck is going to get shuffled. You've seen this happen with a large number of skills. There's no reason for outrage. The meta isn't terribly exclusive right now. A quick look at POEninja should show you that a diverse group of varied builds are all performing well. In fact, it speaks to how well the game is set up right now that you can really play anything and be in the top 100. You won't take a demi that way, but honestly that shouldn't trigger anyone. -- I don't have alpha access, that was a LONG time ago. Last edited by Zakaluka#1191 on May 21, 2019, 2:10:05 AM
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" I don't think the just the power is what he's reaction to. You can try to compare it to similar skills, and it comes out on top mechanically every single time. Like comparing it to Blade Vortex: Similar build, same build up - BV forces you to be pretty close, WO has a fairly long range and freakin' auto-targets at the speed of your first sexual intercourse. But yes, maybe it's just its "meta period". It will probably see both a numerical change and a mechanical change. Range? Projectile speed? Duration? Who knows. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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Just remember that in D3 you had basically two builds for each class that mattered.
PoE has managed to keep most things relevant, and they frequently shuffle the deck. There are only a few things in the game that have never seen the light of day, and I bet I could count them on one hand. --
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" Da fuck? PoE isn't a game which requires mechanical skills and you don't have to min-max everything to understand it's strengths, which for Winter Orb are everything. I watched a 1 EX Winter Orb build drop Uber Elder - quite certainly I play better than he did and am able to generate more resources than what he invested. Will I ever bother to play video games in a vegetative state? Nope. Uploaded an awesome Exsanguinate Freeze Explosion build on the forums - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3508506
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" " So in your mind winter orb is strong because of ascendancies, trickster and elementalist or secondary explosion effects. Now do an experiment and try it without and winter orb will feel like peeing in the wind. Everything gets sprinkled a bit and you get wet. Last edited by pifpep#5577 on May 21, 2019, 2:29:15 AM
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" Just like the guy talking about watching a ssfhc streamer, you're only proving his point. The challenge with every other skill is that you don't have the freedom of movement. With any stationary skill, you can simply fire blindly unless you're specifically built to survive big hits and out-leech the rest. I failed a ton of ubers simply over attacking too long because I was too stubborn to hold off and just improve my output enough that I didn't feel like I had to attack all the time. In other words, you have to know when to move and when to attack. The main thing WO does is minimize your time frozen in place so that you can focus on movement, allowing more time to react. It does of course help that its still in the spotlight, but just like every flavor of the month, it's gonna get nuked into nerfdom to allow the next flavor to take over. Yep, totally over league play.
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it is a good skill. try it mate
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