To everyone whos scared of power creep

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iceandfire2907 wrote:

>People linking GG bow with +1 bow +1 gem on implicit +2 bow +1 gem +1 str +1int as an example for powercreep while only the top of the top player would ever be able to obtain/craft.

merciless, dictator's, runic, and the ele affixes. ascendancies. lab enchants. implicits. elder affixes. shaper affixes. bench mods for extra damage as chaos, cannot be frozen, hits can't be evaded, frenzy charge damage... the incursion double affixes. fossils.

only for the "top players," amirite?

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robmafia wrote:

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iceandfire2907 wrote:

>People linking GG bow with +1 bow +1 gem on implicit +2 bow +1 gem +1 str +1int as an example for powercreep while only the top of the top player would ever be able to obtain/craft.

merciless, dictator's, runic, and the ele affixes. ascendancies. lab enchants. implicits. elder affixes. shaper affixes. bench mods for extra damage as chaos, cannot be frozen, hits can't be evaded, frenzy charge damage... the incursion double affixes. fossils.

only for the "top players," amirite?

what you're saying is for everyone tho?

EXACTLY.

and it's all power creep.

and how did i forget to mention abyssal jewels/stygians?

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robmafia wrote:

EXACTLY.

and it's all power creep.

and how did i forget to mention abyssal jewels/stygians?

your not getting my point. those thing you mention is for everyone and it's need to kill content. so technique not powercreep.

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iceandfire2907 wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

EXACTLY.

and it's all power creep.

and how did i forget to mention abyssal jewels/stygians?

your not getting my point. those thing you mention is for everyone and it's need to kill content. so technique not powercreep.

you clearly have no idea what "power creep" means.

lol sure

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alhazred70 wrote:

OR The Project PT's of the community I.e. the unapologetic Masochists.

After seeing the league he created recently, I no longer have even the slightest interest in his ideas of how POE should be designed. One of his streams recently was something like eight hours of him farming the first area of cruel lab for gems since his garbage league doesn't have vendors. That's hell. That's not fun.

"Hur dur, fun's subjective." Yeah, I don't care who you are, slamming your cock in a blender and flipping it on isn't fun. You can toss your subjectivity out the window.

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robmafia wrote:

merciless, dictator's, runic, and the ele affixes. ascendancies. lab enchants. implicits. elder affixes. shaper affixes. bench mods for extra damage as chaos, cannot be frozen, hits can't be evaded, frenzy charge damage... the incursion double affixes. fossils.

only for the "top players," amirite?

I play semi-seriously in SSF, which puts me in roughly the same ballpark as the casuals who play in trade leagues. A lot of what you mentioned might as well not exist for me. Double corruptions? Highest tier rolls on gear? Ultra-rare Betrayal mods? Yeah, I'm probably never going to use gear with any of that stuff.

I've used a ton of fossils. Nothing I've rolled with them was ever usable, even by SSF standards. Sure, enough other people use them that decent gear's out there for people in trade leagues to buy, but we're talking about casuals here. They're not typically the best people at understanding the market and saving up to buy great gear. From what I've heard Chris say over the years, the way casuals play is mostly SSF.

Don't even get me started on bullshit lab enchant RNG. That's a cancer that keeps growing larger every damn time they release new skills.

Almost all the power creep introduced to POE lands in the hands of a tiny percentage of the player base.

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Jennik wrote:

I play semi-seriously in SSF, which puts me in roughly the same ballpark as the casuals who play in trade leagues. A lot of what you mentioned might as well not exist for me. Double corruptions? Highest tier rolls on gear? Ultra-rare Betrayal mods? Yeah, I'm probably never going to use gear with any of that stuff.

...i didn't mean the double-corrupted items. i meant the incursion double affixes (ie: t1 fire res with % phys taken as fire).

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Jennik wrote:

I've used a ton of fossils. Nothing I've rolled with them was ever usable,

bullshit hath been called.

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Jennik wrote:

even by SSF standards. Sure, enough other people use them that decent gear's out there for people in trade leagues to buy, but we're talking about casuals here. They're not typically the best people at understanding the market and saving up to buy great gear. From what I've heard Chris say over the years, the way casuals play is mostly SSF.

Don't even get me started on bullshit lab enchant RNG. That's a cancer that keeps growing larger every damn time they release new skills.

Almost all the power creep introduced to POE lands in the hands of a tiny percentage of the player base.

*whoooooooooooooooooooooosh*

there's more power than ever. you can pretend you never see any of it, but that's just bs. you're either unaware of it or you're lying to downplay.

regardless, i mentioned a metric fuckton of power creep and one would have to intentionally gimp their characters to not have any.

re: pink - you're telling me that "a tiny percentage of the player base" doesn't ascend? or use implicits/enchants? or elder/shaper items? or abyssal jewels? or stygians? OR BENCH MODS? get real.

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robmafia wrote:

...i didn't mean the double-corrupted items. i meant the incursion double affixes (ie: t1 fire res with % phys taken as fire).

Seriously? Those are even more rare. How can you possibly be under the impression that casuals are running around with that gear? Good lord, man.

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robmafia wrote:

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Jennik wrote:

I've used a ton of fossils. Nothing I've rolled with them was ever usable,

bullshit hath been called.

So your response is to accuse people of lying when they make entirely reasonable claims? Nice. As a heads up, this just got you added to my blocklist. I'll no longer see any of your posts, so thanks for brightening my reality.

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robmafia wrote:

*whoooooooooooooooooooooosh*

there's more power than ever. you can pretend you never see any of it, but that's just bs. you're either unaware of it or you're lying to downplay.

So you imply something went over my head, but don't say what it is. You accuse me of either lying or being unaware of some nebulous "more power" that you neglect to specify. You fail to respond to any of my points that clearly demonstrate how incompatible with reality your beliefs are. This is not how one effectively communicates, Rob.

I bid you good day forever. Please try to become a person worth interacting with.