Don't nerf Syndicate encounters

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As much as I don't like how the author is often trolling, I can't go against the thread, as he is basically right, and that most people who have been complaining against syndicate members pretty much just have un-optimized/un-balanced builds and are crying because the syndicate members are punishing them for it.

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VolcanoElixir wrote:

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As much as I don't like how the author is often trolling, I can't go against the thread, as he is basically right, and that most people who have been complaining against syndicate members pretty much just have un-optimized/un-balanced builds and are crying because the syndicate members are punishing them for it.

Indeed. He is right, but it speaks as a problem that people had to find out they need defenses from somebody with a poor and hostile attitude to them instead of GGG properly communicating the difficulty (which based on the safehouses and laboratory basements is clearly not meant to be a challenging league) so that people would know they need to have higher defenses than what they would normally do to play softcore to begin with.

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Albinosaurus wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

this one's my favorite accusation.

you keep insisting this. and yet, you keep doing it. funny enough, even now. your argument is great... if i had actually misrepresented. since i didn't, it's just... strawman!


but what do i know? i'm just the "troll" and "liar" who 'can't get into red maps' and 'can't actually handle syndicate encounters,' right?

...right?

Those weren't my accusations against you. I'm sure you can, if you're not being lazy. But you did misrepresent it. Nobody said facts were toxic, except you, in an attempt to misrepresent it. That's not a straw man at all. That's actually what happened.

I'm sure I've explained this to you before, but just to clarify, a straw man is when you twist/distort an argument into something that it isn't (to make it appear weaker than it is) in order to try to win against that now deformed argument. There's nothing about what I've said that fits this criteria. This is why I keep insisting that you don't know what it means. However, you and a few others around here continually done this to people who found the extreme health sponge and one-shots to be out of line with the rest of the content by attacking their builds instead of acknowledging the challenge disparity. Textbook straw man right there.

Lastly, we consider you a troll because you refuse to acknowledge when you fuck up. You blame everyone else and deny any fault that rightfully rests with you. Don't expect anyone to engage with you on an intellectual level when your behavior makes it impossible to regard you with any credibility whatsoever.

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Albinosaurus wrote:

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VolcanoElixir wrote:

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As much as I don't like how the author is often trolling, I can't go against the thread, as he is basically right, and that most people who have been complaining against syndicate members pretty much just have un-optimized/un-balanced builds and are crying because the syndicate members are punishing them for it.

Indeed. He is right, but it speaks as a problem that people had to find out they need defenses from somebody with a poor and hostile attitude to them instead of GGG properly communicating the difficulty (which based on the safehouses and laboratory basements is clearly not meant to be a challenging league) so that people would know they need to have higher defenses than what they would normally do to play softcore to begin with.

No, the author was wrong. That's why people complained and why GGG nerfed it (agreeing with the complaints). That's all there is to it.

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robmafia wrote:

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Albinosaurus wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

this one's my favorite accusation.

you keep insisting this. and yet, you keep doing it. funny enough, even now. your argument is great... if i had actually misrepresented. since i didn't, it's just... strawman!


but what do i know? i'm just the "troll" and "liar" who 'can't get into red maps' and 'can't actually handle syndicate encounters,' right?

...right?

Those weren't my accusations against you. I'm sure you can, if you're not being lazy. But you did misrepresent it. Nobody said facts were toxic, except you, in an attempt to misrepresent it. That's not a straw man at all. That's actually what happened.

I'm sure I've explained this to you before, but just to clarify, a straw man is when you twist/distort an argument into something that it isn't (to make it appear weaker than it is) in order to try to win against that now deformed argument. There's nothing about what I've said that fits this criteria. This is why I keep insisting that you don't know what it means. However, you and a few others around here continually done this to people who found the extreme health sponge and one-shots to be out of line with the rest of the content by attacking their builds instead of acknowledging the challenge disparity. Textbook straw man right there.

Lastly, we consider you a troll because you refuse to acknowledge when you fuck up. You blame everyone else and deny any fault that rightfully rests with you. Don't expect anyone to engage with you on an intellectual level when your behavior makes it impossible to regard you with any credibility whatsoever.

pick a page. chances are, someone's calling me a troll or liar for... stating facts. that wasn't even close to misrepresenting.

as for acknowledging when i fuck up - i keep asking you to cite ANY instances of such. you have yet to provide ONE.

gee, i wonder why?

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Volband wrote:

Chaos resist is my favorite new meme out all of this. I can already see that even years later, whenever an issue (warranted or not) comes up people will remember it, and spam "just get chaos res lol xddd".

I am going to reveal a secret now: chaos resist helps against like 2 or 3 Syndicate members at best. Is it useless? No, but to believe that if you have C res you are good to go is just not true.

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Albinosaurus wrote:

My responses over the past two pages have given you several example, but again you choose to prove my point: You don't listen to anyone and deny blame. This is why you are (correctly) regarded as a troll.