Don't nerf Syndicate encounters

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Fruz wrote:

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Sixtysan wrote:

Offscreen annihilated. By the ads btw, not Syndicate. It's like fucking chaos porcupines.

You seem to be playing quite the glass canon.

Finally! The guy who hasn't even finished the campaign returned to give advice about dealing with the Syndicate on maps.

Meanwhile the top post on poe reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/a6nvp4/my_league_experience_so_far/

Guys, you can choose whose explanation you want to hear for that: the person who has no issues with the syndicate, but fails to show himself, or the other person who hasn't run a single map in this league?

Edit: btw I have another account with another character, which kills Janus on T16 easy peasy, but can't show it. Take my word for it though. :)

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Fruz wrote:

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Sixtysan wrote:

Offscreen annihilated. By the ads btw, not Syndicate. It's like fucking chaos porcupines.

You seem to be playing quite the glass canon.

Enfeeble, fortify block occultist with minions and blind. This is T2.

Btw I just had another rip without +2 projectiles. The fortress seems to be absurdly overturned. Probably accidentally.

How is that a glass cannon? 2.5-3.5k health is a perfectly reasonable amount of health when you begin mapping. 5k+ is an endgame suggestion, not for Kitava2.

If he's able to clear the monsters in a tier 2 map and take normal hits, it's not really a glass cannon, is it?

If he's able to do low tier maps but consistently dies to the encounters at that tier, that pretty strongly implies that the encounters are much more powerful than that area should allow.

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Volband wrote:

Meanwhile the top post on poe reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/a6nvp4/my_league_experience_so_far/

That topic reveals another problem: even unnoticable attacks are deadly. WTF? Every deadly attack in game so far was pretty predictable (except some content that got changed): either it is boss attack or those monsters shooting spikes on death when you kill too many.

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rus9384 wrote:

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Volband wrote:

Meanwhile the top post on poe reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/a6nvp4/my_league_experience_so_far/

That topic reveals another problem: even unnoticable attacks are deadly. WTF? Every deadly attack in game so far was pretty predictable (except some content that got changed): either it is boss attack or those monsters shooting spikes on death when you kill too many.

https://clips.twitch.tv/PunchyEnthusiasticAnteaterKappaWealth

I just posted this on the other thread, but hey, let other people enjoy it too!

Also, my favorite comment from reddit:

- Stop running dangerous red maps, just annul off all the mods on ur maps xddd
- ChAoS ReS xdddd
- Lmao just kill them and put them in the prison ROFL XD
- Just dont get hit iksde pog
- Just run blood aqueducts 38 times until you've reset every member's rank and items, run maps until you find a research hideout and don't interact with it to disable every other Betrayal mechanic and play the game like it's standard. Ugh, you people and your lack of commitment.
- "Just play standard lmao"
- stOP uPgRaDiNG yOuR SyNdicAtE tHEn. dEStrOy theIr IteMs. GeT rId OF MeMBErS THaT aRE SET up to harD COUNteR YOur bUILD.

I'm honored that my quote made that list :D

If GGG won't nerf syndicate and the monsters respawning with them (non-stop respawning with damage taking delay), the online numbers of players will drop very fast. I'm playing PoE every evening after work for 2+ years and I'm done with this game for the first time. I've tried 3 different builds, and everyone of them was oneshotted everytime I encountered syndicate monsters (no matter - 5k hp + MoM 3k mana, or 7k hp + alot of phys. reduction). If GGG won't nerf this, I won't play PoE anymore and I'll recommend to my friends stop playing aswell. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who are really pissed off because of this stupidly OP syndicate monsters.

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Volband wrote:

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rus9384 wrote:

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Volband wrote:

Meanwhile the top post on poe reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/a6nvp4/my_league_experience_so_far/

That topic reveals another problem: even unnoticable attacks are deadly. WTF? Every deadly attack in game so far was pretty predictable (except some content that got changed): either it is boss attack or those monsters shooting spikes on death when you kill too many.

https://clips.twitch.tv/PunchyEnthusiasticAnteaterKappaWealth

I just posted this on the other thread, but hey, let other people enjoy it too!

Also, my favorite comment from reddit:

- Stop running dangerous red maps, just annul off all the mods on ur maps xddd
- ChAoS ReS xdddd
- Lmao just kill them and put them in the prison ROFL XD
- Just dont get hit iksde pog
- Just run blood aqueducts 38 times until you've reset every member's rank and items, run maps until you find a research hideout and don't interact with it to disable every other Betrayal mechanic and play the game like it's standard. Ugh, you people and your lack of commitment.
- "Just play standard lmao"
- stOP uPgRaDiNG yOuR SyNdicAtE tHEn. dEStrOy theIr IteMs. GeT rId OF MeMBErS THaT aRE SET up to harD COUNteR YOur bUILD.

I'm honored that my quote made that list :D

What a coincidence :D This is my reply two pages back:

Elron lvl 68 Consecrated Path:

75% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire Damage
Can be Attached for a total Duration of 2 seconds
Deals up to 20% more Damage to closer targets
Deals 101% of Damage

Imagine you gave him a Lorag's Firestarter:

Gain 50% of Physical Damage as Extra Fire Damage
all_damage_can_ignite
Always Ignite

And on top of it, you run map with "Monsters deal (90-110)% extra Damage as Fire" mod.


Im fucking Navali :D

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rus9384 wrote:

P.S.S. I'm pretty glad to know you are the minority. And devs follow the majority when it comes for profit.

Yup. I'm quite pleasantly surprised that they even added this much challenge in the first place. Usually the part of league content that isn't rngated is absurdly boring.

But hey, I'm gonna enjoy the state of things for as long as it lasts. Which probably ends by the end of next week latest, perfectly timed for a disappointing Christmas gift.

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saragart wrote:

I have a very simple solution for the "1%"-ers. Pay a few bucks and play rippy private league. You will be at the edge of your seat all the time and you won't have time to humble brag here how good it is and how sweet the balance is. Since private leagues launched you have lost your right to bash casuals and claim being all about the balance and challenging content. You are about status and you want it to be exclusive to you, at least admit it.

Buy me a league then :) Otherwise stfu & gtfo.

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Feredhel wrote:

also how in this world is death a learning mechanic? you apologists always say that without exlaining how it should go in you mind...
BCS IT DOEsNT

Easy. All deaths outside of connection issues and crashes are YOUR fault. You did something wrong, maybe failed to evade a hit or ran into a skill. Whatever the reason, the fault lies with you, and you should take note not to do that again in the future ;)

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petitcrabe1 wrote:

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Anonymous1749704 wrote:

Deaths are a learning experience. Also, based on what I've read on these forums, PoE has been turning into HC-unfriendly game for many a league now, so I'm sorry if I can't consider HC issues a worthy reason for nerfing the content. HC is the place where you go AFTER you've mastered the content, so...

Lol, what is there to Master into getting 1 shot in softcore or hardcore ?

a) Shocked Ground. 1 shot. If you get hit from 10k you just learned what ? That you shouldnt play maps ?

b) crit chance + crit mult + extra damage as element = 1 shot. You learned that no one should play those mods ?

c) Boss fight, you get stunned, intervention show up! Dead
You learned that you shouldnt fight bosses ???

d) You open a box and become surrounded. You dont have phase run and intervention show up. You learned that every builds now need phase run ???

e) And so on...

Im way confused. It's like if you said that getting raped was a learning experience. It sure wouldnt feel good and there nothing useful to learn about it aside that it was a bad experience that should never exist in the first place.

A) Learn to, you know, not stand on shocked ground? Elementary, my dear Watson.

B) Well... yes? If your build can't handle insane damage boost that mobs get from mods, why exactly are you running maps with those mods? Nobody's forcing you...

C) Bullshit. Intervention happens ALWAYS soon after starting the map. It NEVER waits only after you start a boss fight. You just got caught lying your ass off, shame shame.

D) Read C.

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Sixtysan wrote:

Here we go again, Incursion 101. Shotgunning is back on the menu.

+2 projectile mod completely obliterate any sense of remaining balance.

Offscreen annihilated. By the ads btw, not Syndicate. It's like fucking chaos porcupines.

Lack of defenses. I can run t4 maps with two damage mods and still easily clear Syndicate encounters.

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FathomWheel wrote:

How is that a glass cannon? 2.5-3.5k health is a perfectly reasonable amount of health when you begin mapping. 5k+ is an endgame suggestion, not for Kitava2.

If he's able to clear the monsters in a tier 2 map and take normal hits, it's not really a glass cannon, is it?

If he's able to do low tier maps but consistently dies to the encounters at that tier, that pretty strongly implies that the encounters are much more powerful than that area should allow.

Lol WHAT. That little hp isn't acceptable at any point after campaign hahaha. I mentioned earlier that I've done campaign with negative resis and 2.4k hp. What I didn't mention was that when I entered maps, it became an entirely different play field; couldn't even clear t1 map without dying once.

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Volband wrote:

https://clips.twitch.tv/PunchyEnthusiasticAnteaterKappaWealth

I just posted this on the other thread, but hey, let other people enjoy it too!

Also, my favorite comment from reddit:

- Stop running dangerous red maps, just annul off all the mods on ur maps xddd
- ChAoS ReS xdddd
- Lmao just kill them and put them in the prison ROFL XD
- Just dont get hit iksde pog
- Just run blood aqueducts 38 times until you've reset every member's rank and items, run maps until you find a research hideout and don't interact with it to disable every other Betrayal mechanic and play the game like it's standard. Ugh, you people and your lack of commitment.
- "Just play standard lmao"
- stOP uPgRaDiNG yOuR SyNdicAtE tHEn. dEStrOy theIr IteMs. GeT rId OF MeMBErS THaT aRE SET up to harD COUNteR YOur bUILD.

I'm honored that my quote made that list :D

Thanks for posting a video that backs up my point! There's a clear yellow circle on the ground, which indicates Elreon's charged up attack. Guy doesn't move after seeing it (there's almost a second to react to it) and gets killed by a charge circle he actually saw. I'll admit, there are occasions when the circle is VERY difficult to see, but this was not one of those times.

This video shows why playing league content blind in HC is a bad idea; if he knew what to expect from Elreon, if he knew what that circle meant, he would've evaded the death VERY easily. I know this because I wouldn't have died there, and since I've heard of this guy's name before I'd say it's safe to assume that he's many times better player than me. It's clear as day that he had no idea though.


Final note, Janus is SUPER easy ragdoll and free kill at all levels. Easily one of the three easiest Syndicate members to appear. The fact that you think he's hard is really mindblowing. Tsk tsk.

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Anonymous1749704 wrote:

Thanks for posting a video that backs up my point! There's a clear yellow circle on the ground, which indicates Elreon's charged up attack. Guy doesn't move after seeing it (there's almost a second to react to it) and gets killed by a charge circle he actually saw. I'll admit, there are occasions when the circle is VERY difficult to see, but this was not one of those times.

Play that part with 0.25x speed. You can see that the circle appears DURING his dash there, and he immediately moves his cursor up to dash away.

Don't make yourself look like such a fool with comments like this.

Bonus off-screen kill: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/a6rshg/quin_gets_1shot_from_off_screen/

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Volband wrote:

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Anonymous1749704 wrote:

Thanks for posting a video that backs up my point! There's a clear yellow circle on the ground, which indicates Elreon's charged up attack. Guy doesn't move after seeing it (there's almost a second to react to it) and gets killed by a charge circle he actually saw. I'll admit, there are occasions when the circle is VERY difficult to see, but this was not one of those times.

Play that part with 0.25x speed. You can see that the circle appears DURING his dash there, and he immediately moves his cursor up to dash away.

Don't make yourself look like such a fool with comments like this.

Bonus off-screen kill: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/a6rshg/quin_gets_1shot_from_off_screen/

You might suck that bad, but for GOOD players like myself and that streamer, the time was plenty to move away from a known 1-shot move. Just like we know to move from hand of god, Vaal Oversoul smash, Malachai smash, Kitava's multiple smashes and firebreath.... You should get the idea. That death was literally due to lack of knowledge, no matter how you wanna twist it. :)

As for the other video you linked, using common sense isn't forbidden. If you intentionally offscreen the enemies and MISS THE WINDUP FOR BIG ATTACKS, is the game REALLY to blame? LOL no. Player error, AGAIN. Finally something to counter player offscreen builds!