Anyone feel disappointed? Betrayal = Clear Speed Meta ++?

Just watched ZiggyD's new vid. And it kinda bummed me out. There was one encounter where it's a timed event, where it appears like you have to kill everything or fail the encounter.

I dunno, I was hyped, now I'm like...prob a skip for me. Another Incursion Clone.

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RPGlitch wrote:

Just watched ZiggyD's new vid. And it kinda bummed me out. There was one encounter where it's a timed event, where it appears like you have to kill everything or fail the encounter.

I dunno, I was hyped, now I'm like...prob a skip for me. Another Incursion Clone.

Welcome to PoE!
I think its okay, i want to be fast and kill stuff as fast as i can strafe by it.
Also by that logic (timed events = incursion), abyss was the OG. Although i didnt like incursion that much, because my character was a totem hiero and the windup time for the totems alone screwed me in many incursions (no, it was not arc totems). But some builds are bound to fair better, some worse.

Lol. No. Not unless you’re one of those people who likes to play semi-tanky no damage builds that take 30 minutes to clear a map...

Single target capabilities and defenses will be very significant in Betrayal. Look at the structure, it’s very unique mob heavy, similar to war bands. On top of that we have Delve and Bestiary. Delve rewards tankiness in a big way and Bestiary requires strong single target capabilities to beat the nastier red beasts.

Hell, even Incursion wasn’t that big on clear speed. Single target damage was much more important if you wanted good temples. Budget clear speed builds had trouble taking down architects in time.

Are you kidding? Next league looks like it'll be slow as fuck. You'll have to actually interact with the mechanic and think about things, eww.

(Half joking, I'm sure it'll be fun.)

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RPGlitch wrote:

Just watched ZiggyD's new vid. And it kinda bummed me out. There was one encounter where it's a timed event, where it appears like you have to kill everything or fail the encounter.

I dunno, I was hyped, now I'm like...prob a skip for me. Another Incursion Clone.

Breach? Incursion? Even Abyss. Leagues were clear speed meta based since long time ago.

Though once you get your build going, you was always capable of enjoying League content with pretty much any build.

We clear speed meta since 2016

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Vesuvius079 wrote:

Lol. No. Not unless you’re one of those people who likes to play semi-tanky no damage builds that take 30 minutes to clear a map...

Alright, I guess we could always use more elitists who make backhanded comments. The rest of the players would like to have some fun with the league mechanics without being told to fuck off.

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Look at the structure, it’s very unique mob heavy, similar to war bands. On top of that we have Delve and Bestiary. Delve rewards tankiness in a big way and Bestiary requires strong single target capabilities to beat the nastier red beasts.

Not sure why you can't have the same GC miner or Poet's Pen that have insane single and aoe to obliterate the screen with glass cannon defense at Delve 1000+.

Defense is shit. And you know it, lol. Why bother making up reasons about tankiness. Even the new bestiary is auto-net so you don't even need to bother waiting a second to net shit, keep obliterating everything 2 screens away.

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Hell, even Incursion wasn’t that big on clear speed. Single target damage was much more important if you wanted good temples. Budget clear speed builds had trouble taking down architects in time.

You got enough dps to explode the entire screen architect and all in 3 seconds or you didn't do incursions at all. At the end of the day, you either went clear speed + even more insane damage. Or you fucked off the league.

I don't know. You might like incursion, fair enough. But incursion not being big on clear speed is bullshit.

Ah, whatever.

Just disappointed to hear timed events coming back again. Especially, since it makes people feel like shit every time you fail it. At least in delve, you could still enjoy the mechanic without playing broken shit.

Do you play bad builds or something?

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Xavderion wrote:

We clear speed meta since 2016

been a clear speed meta since 2013. can probably still find the thread about gorge clear speed records and the builds to do it in the best times etc.

PS you could clear gorge competitive even to todays builds way back then. a minute and 20 seconds i believe was the fastest. something like that.

people like to zoom zoom because its fun. it has a sense of god-hood, which we all like. we want to be goku, not krillin.

on the shores of the twilight strand we're garbage. ocean puke. we want to build up to the monsters we can become and it does feel good when we do.

i wouldn't say the game is forcing a clear speed playstyle at all, but majority of people are drawn to it so i don't see it getting toned down any, other than typical balance changes.

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I_NO wrote:

Do you play bad builds or something?

Do you want me to stab you with this harpoon?