Anyone feel disappointed? Betrayal = Clear Speed Meta ++?

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RPGlitch wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

Do you play bad builds or something?

Do you want me to stab you with this harpoon?

noo noo

T_T /back to the ocean

dude are you serious

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Alright, I guess we could always use more elitists who make backhanded comments. The rest of the players would like to have some fun with the league mechanics without being told to fuck off.

Well with complaints like yours it's pretty hard to resist...

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Not sure why you can't have the same GC miner or Poet's Pen that have insane single and aoe to obliterate the screen with glass cannon defense at Delve 1000+.

Defense is shit. And you know it, lol. Why bother making up reasons about tankiness. Even the new bestiary is auto-net so you don't even need to bother waiting a second to net shit, keep obliterating everything 2 screens away.

Of the 50 or so people who are at that depth, it looks like about a third are pathfinders. You know what that build is? Full immunity to hit damage. That's serious defense that takes a lot of investment.

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You got enough dps to explode the entire screen architect and all in 3 seconds or you didn't do incursions at all. At the end of the day, you either went clear speed + even more insane damage. Or you fucked off the league.

Yeah no. You had 30-60 seconds in most maps to clear about 6 screens of mobs + a boss. If you can't clear a screen in 5 seconds your build is just really really slow. If you're clearing that slowly, you'd better have some serious single target or your build is basically just bad. You need to at least be fast at something to have a good build.

Additionally, pure damage builds died a ton in incursions. Have you forgotten all the chaos shooter threads? You don't remember how hard the rare mobs could hit you? You needed defense in there if you wanted to clear them reliably. Even with good defenses (I had a 6k life permanent immortal call build) you would sometimes make a bad mistake and die in T16 incursions.

ya t16 incursions were pretty fucking intense. that is true. incursion mobs were more overtuned than delve by a long shot.

pretty enjoyable actually.

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鬼殺し wrote:

Now if you'll excuse me, my single target Vigilcrit-Strike Assassin won't get through act 3 by himself...

im curious...what will you do if they ever set a 36 challenge league reward as a pet?
would you get it

I never really understood the concept of the "Clear Speed Meta". People are always trying to push the boundaries of every game and go faster in it. The faster you complete one task, the faster you reap the rewards, and the faster you move on to your next task.

While I do think there are ways an ARPG could be slower and more methodical in its approach, PoE is so far removed from that by now. GGG would have to literally start all over to change this. It has nothing to do with Betrayal but with PoE itself.

It's unlikely to ever change either. With every league release from here on out, GGG will have to out do the previous leagues. If the new toys we get aren't on the same level of previous stuff, then who is going to engage with it. The game will continue to layer all this powercreep so only a couple bosses in the game provide "challenge" while the rest of the game is about blowing screens up.

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xMustard wrote:

we want to be goku, not krillin.

But Krillin has the better wife.

People wanting to do stuff faster =/= clear speed meta. What are they clearing faster exactly, the boss? doesn't make a lot of sense.

Trying to forcibly slow down content in an action game is counter productive anyway.

People wanting to do stuff faster =/= clear speed meta. What are they clearing faster exactly, the boss? doesn't make a lot of sense.

Trying to forcibly slow down content in an action game is counter productive anyway.

has to be a troll right?