After 18 Years...Frozen Orb is BACK!! :D

am I the only one who doesnt miss frozen orb or sorc altogether ?

teleport still the dumbest shit ever, and to think instead of taking it away they decided to give it to everyone in LoD fucking facepalm

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grepman wrote:

am I the only one who doesnt miss frozen orb or sorc altogether ?

teleport still the dumbest shit ever, and to think instead of taking it away they decided to give it to everyone in LoD fucking facepalm

I loved the mass teleport tbh. The op runewords were a breath of fresh air into an already incredible game that had run it's course. It's faceroll pve, why nerf everything down to the most inferior mechanics, when we could have more access to the best ones? Full parties waiting in town for a TP while one dude teleported to Baal with a maphack are some of my fondest memories of childhood online gaming. Duped runes, maphacks, ITH swords, dirtbag trade scammers, teleports everywhere, I loved it all man. :D

Did you also play FPS games with godmode and noclip on?

the base game speed VS teleport game speed difference is humongous

it also birthed parroting clowns who think arpgs are "fast" by definiton. without dumb as fuck enigma, things could've been very different in Diabloid world. *sigh*

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xMustard wrote:

has nothing to do with cold spells, it has everything to do with fire damage and just conversion in general.

CAn agree to half of that but then again ppl play Arc and they play it lightning. Not convert. If you look at convert there really is only 2 types that are very encrusted in that situation. Phys and Cold. Lightning tend to be more played as lightning and so is fire even if there are ways to make Lightning become cold or fire and fire as chaos. There is a reason why no one play Voltaxic even if it's a convert while some will happily play blade vortex mix conversion.

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petitcrabe1 wrote:

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xMustard wrote:

has nothing to do with cold spells, it has everything to do with fire damage and just conversion in general.

CAn agree to half of that but then again ppl play Arc and they play it lightning. Not convert. If you look at convert there really is only 2 types that are very encrusted in that situation. Phys and Cold. Lightning tend to be more played as lightning and so is fire even if there are ways to make Lightning become cold or fire and fire as chaos. There is a reason why no one play Voltaxic even if it's a convert while some will happily play blade vortex mix conversion.

this is what i mean. cold to fire is obvious because fire is insanely strong. lightning to fire is inefficient because of how convert works. same with a lot of other conversion. however conversion from phys to anything is always best.

i hope this is addressed at some point but i think there are big engine restrictions amidst conversion.

I had so many frostbolt builds when I started missing my frozen orb.

It may not be the same but it at least captures the jist of it.

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grepman wrote:

am I the only one who doesnt miss frozen orb or sorc altogether ?

teleport still the dumbest shit ever, and to think instead of taking it away they decided to give it to everyone in LoD fucking facepalm

Do I miss it ? Not really. Do I start to miss Diablo II as a whole when you bring it up and think about:

Barrage < Strafe
Lightning Warp < Teleport
Mines/traps < D2 traps <---- Far from clunky. Apparently a feat to do in a game...
Arctic breath < Arctic Blast
Ice Spear < Bone Spear
Warcries < D2 warcries
Curses are bland < D2 curses were fun
Frost wall < Bone Wall/Bone Prise
Poisons < Poison Explosion/Poison Nova
Firestorm < Armageddon
Auras < D2 Auras

and so many other things that felt smoother and better on a game so old.

Yeah... When you put it like that... I kinda miss Diablo II, frozen orb and many other things it had. Diablo II became stale and old, but nothing compare to it. IT even had a nice story! PoE is more played like a arcade game where story is just bad.

Here 1 thing I really dont miss about diablo 2. Thunder Storm! It was something completely stupid... IF you have a little blank. It become Heralds. Something that shouldnt exist tbh.

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Exile009 wrote:

Here's dedicated gameplay footage of it in action!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkfffHocIlE&feature=youtu.be

Okay, seeing it in action, it looks less like a "CwC base" and more like a "mobile auto turret". Even more so than, say, Blade Vortex or Mirage Archer. I have mixed feelings about this.

Not even close:O

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Rakiii wrote:

Not even close:O

Well yeah, but they couldn't have made something exactly like Frozen Orb. Cos we already have Ball Lightning + Call of the Brotherhood in the game. It'd be too similar, only saving you a ring slot.