Zerker on the bottom of the lists yet again.
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Whats the problem? Berserker is fine. It cures all the diseases of the typical flat ele attack scaling build, namely attack speed and leech and doesnt require you to go fixed paths on the skill tree for frenzy charges, crit and all that bullshit.
4 bars till 100, hc ssf. Berserker. You can hardly give GGG the fault for players playing Berserker like a wheelchair gladiator, performing worse than with gladiator and then never playing it again. There are builds where Berserker fills the holes that nobody else can. As I said, flat ele scaling with MoM and Ranger Dodge all in one. Who else can do that without unrealistic gear or deficits somewhere? The only stuff that annoys me on the current Berserker is that the minor node bonus is "attack physical bonus". Why? Why the fuck would they specify the type of damage done in the "more damage for all types, leech all types of damage" class? But yea thanks to the BALANCED DAMAGE SCALING mechanics, I can flush 120% increased phys damage down the toilet and still do 450k dps with a fucking brightbeak and ground slam, 1h + shield, no damage flasks or auras so who cares actually. Just be yourself mang. Last edited by The_Human_Tornado#7752 on Oct 18, 2018, 2:21:12 PM
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And i still remember that 3.0 dark pact berserker with old vaal pact and zerker being top of the charts by far. Sad that all those are meh right now.
"In this game you're just a cow being milked, not a human being entertained" - Kiss_Me_Quick
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" That's just the cycle of things as they get balanced...though I wish they were not so heavy handed with the pendulum swing. I miss Cast on Critical being a usable skill. I miss old Incinerate and the ability to shotgun. I miss old Vaal Spark. I even miss the old less popular juggernaut tree. I surprisingly miss multistrike working with Cyclone and Leap Slam.....though that was never overpowered :) Someday the power/class will swing back to the top. It wasn't that long ago that Elementalist was in a bad place and Elemental Hit was a complete joke. Let's talk about Sweep..... Thanks for all the fish! Last edited by Nubatron#4333 on Oct 18, 2018, 5:23:09 PM
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" Of what charts? PoE Ninja or what? For sure not HC SSF ladder because since HC SSF exists (march 2017) there is not a single lvl 100 Berseker in any league or even default league. Even when it was fucking meta. Last edited by The_Human_Tornado#7752 on Oct 18, 2018, 5:22:11 PM
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" Gotta say.... I'm mad impressed, hipster ascendancy, hipster build and fucking groundslam I love you dude you might just be my hero, I hope you make those last 4 bars. I don't think people are dumb to not like Zerker though, but you sure know how to sell it lol |
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zerker is dead guys, just broom him under the rug and call it a day. Once they gutted the zerker long ago....well you know the story.
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I think berserker is the only class that has huge downsides to its very generic upsides. Especially now with Delve... while I have thought of some MoM builds, I don't like the idea of walking around with all the degen and increased damage taken.
Other classes have More Multipliers to damage but don't have to deal with downsides. Thematically it fits a "berserker" but it doesn't work in practice. I feel like the class should just be about gaining more benefits the more you fight. The leech is fine, maybe add global leech back. Add a secondary node after warcries to give it something unique. Ditch the 40% More node and add that to rage tree. Maybe add an intial node where you general rage as you attack gaining More Dam, Att Spd, Movement Spd. Then 2 parts off of it that add more benefits to it. |
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" Thanks man xd. I would not want to play anything else and no I am not trolling. REALLY NOT. There is so much said in this thread an I really dont agree on anything, but responding to everything would turn me into Charles Dickens I guess. I just write some short statements: -Berserker is and should not be about pyhs. Thats what gladiator is for. -The bonusses of Berserker (leech, attack speed, attack damage) are generic if you are playing a phys build like Sunderboi, yea. Obviously you aint gonna need shit as leech thanks to bloodrage. EXCEPT if you play with bloodseeker. 250 pdps, 1.7 AS, 6 base crit. You can do everything in this game with this claw no idea why nobody plays it. But if you are playing with ele or chaos without conversion those bonusses are super rare and require you to either fuck up your passive skilltree or waste item slots or roll impossible jewels/items in order to get the holes filled. Or you let Berserker do it. -huge downsides: Come on, 10% increased damage taken ... Just git 10% more ehp as you normally would and you are just as fine as you would normally be. Go MoM, run around with 8750 ehp at lvl 92 and have a laugh about all the 7k hp life scaling ant people Same with the degen. Degen is just about hp, not ehp. So get MoM, MoM also gonna eat 30% of the bloodrage degen away, get the mana regen nodes like everyone would do anyway and get even more life regen and a jewel slot for doing so and you are just like a normal player. In my mind the only thing they should change about Berserker is turning the "12% increased physical attack damage" bonus of the minor nodes into "10-12% increased attack damage". Last edited by The_Human_Tornado#7752 on Oct 19, 2018, 11:43:23 AM
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" At least you are giving some feedback, most people just comment to be condescending. The point still stands though he is the least played, and it would be nice if they adjusted him. I like him too but playing him is forcing yourself to play with a crutch and that doesn't feel right. There is a difference between playing differently then forcing to gimp yourself. If they don't do any changes coming into the next league, I will probably do him as a league starter. |
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" Yea he is the least played but yea Assassin is dogshit as well. There are other things around Berserker that are not Berserkers fault: 1. The RF/arc trap/BV/poets pen meta Classical melee attack builds (except the gladiator sunderboi) are worse than spells/traps etc. 2. The marauder skill tree le "increased weapon/melee physical damage" face. I think the marauder passive skilltree is by far the worst of the whole game and it is by far the dark bluest area in poe ninja and that makes Berserker suffer a lot too. Just bleed and melee phys damage everywhere, blood magic is shit, resolute techniques is ass. Its all outdated garbage. The best thing you can do is just get lyf and regen at start and then just walk the fastest ways to Templar and Duellist to actually be in a real skilltree area. Seriously guys, FUCK MELEE PHYSICAL DAMAGE. Just FUCK IT. Should be Melee damage, should be attack damage, should be everything but not what it is right now. Its like the whole marauder skilltree is pidgeonholed into this "dual wield - shaper stat stick - hatred - herald of ash build design". Like what other thing can you play with it? Pure Phys? Ridiculous. Conversion? RIP itemslots, gem slots and passives and its overnerfed shit, le 40% pyre conversion face. |
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